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My account was blocked with 2215 Euros


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Von ARVEN1010
vor 2 Jahren

I was allowed to deposit my money without verification. It is not even possible to initiate the verification process on the customer's will on their website, since under the verification tab they only say "your account does not need any verification yet". While no verification is required during the deposit stage, an extensive verification process is suddenly enforced at the withdrawal stage. This policy is both unfair and unjust, as it creates a significant disadvantage for players like myself who have already placed their trust in your platform by making deposits and engaging in betting activities.

My account was closed around 2215€ of won money is still frozen there on my closed account. Before the account was closed, after making a deposit, I managed to win a large amount, part of which was withdrawn. This amount has been allocated without verification. Since the site only allows withdrawals of €422 within 24 hours, I was unable to withdraw my winnings all at once, which is unfair to players. So, for the remaining 2215 euros, I received an account identification request from the rabona site, which is completely unders­tan­dab­le.R­abona wanted me to send a bank statement, not any bank statement as other betting companies, but a full bank statement of the last 3 months where all my payments to Rabona could be seen. I was not allowed to redact any other payments, which is totally unprofessional, since bank statements consist of very sensible data. But okay, because I wanted my money, I collaborated and sent them everything they wanted, as well as my full bank statement. The verification was done on the site, but some of the documents they requested could not be uploaded to their system, so I forwarded them to them by e-mail at their request. This correspondence was conducted in my own language because it is possible to communicate with their operators in Hungarian as well. Of course, I will enclose them in English. Afterwards they let me wait for a lot of time and on my request when my verification can be completed they just told me there is so much to do and I should please be patient. So i was patient. But in the end, my account was suddenly closed when I tried to login again after some days. After contacting the live support a last time just a few minutes before I wrote this complaint the answer of the support on my question if they could give me further information about my closed account and frozen money was:

"It was the administration decision, without the possibility to reopen". So they did close my account after letting me wait almost weeks for the completion of a very complicated and too private(!) verification process and finally decide to refuse my verification and subtract all my remaining winnings. An answer why exactly they did this has still not arrived. I want to emphasize that I did nothing wrong but winning money on their website.

They asked for proof of address, revolut EUR statement, card certificate. 

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Betrag €2215

Diskussion

User name

Dear all,

Following a careful review and consideration of all the information, details and/or proof presented by the parties during the complaint process, the AskGamblers Complaint Team reached the conclusion that Rabona Casino management acted in accordance with their Terms and Conditions.

Based on the abovementioned information, the AskGamblers Complaint Team considers this case resolved and it is now officially closed. While we understand this might not be the outcome expected by the complainant, we would like to remind you that, in case of a disagreement with our decision, further assistance on the matter could be requested from the relevant regulatory body and/or appointed ADR entity.

User name
Dear all,

Thank you for reaching out!

Please be informed, that the account in question has been closed in accordance with the following point of the website's Terms and Conditions:
4.1 By opening an account on our Website and by using our Website you warrant that:

-you are acting on your own behalf;
-you have not entered into collusion and will not make an attempt to collude directly or indirectly with another customer of the Website;
-the credit/debit card or any other payment method that you use to top up your account balance belongs to you, is not stolen, and has not been lost by another person. Company reserves the right to close your account and void any winnings in case of a reasonable suspicion that you have violated this warranty.

During the account verification, a violation of the term above was found.
We have sent all pertaining evidence to suppor­t@a­skg­amb­ler­s.com.

We hope this helps clarify the situation.

Best regards,
Rabona customer support
User name

Dear Rabona Casino,

The AskGamblers Complaint Team is kindly asking you to provide a detailed explanation of the issue along with all the relevant facts and evidence that could support your accusations towards the player. Please make sure to state all the relevant casino and/or promotional terms that you believe have been breached by the player, if any. Please send required information to suppor­t@a­skg­amb­ler­s.com directly.

Please note that according to the AGCCS Terms, we consider all the information presented during the course of our complaint process confidential and as such it will not be shared with third parties.

Please be in aware that in case you fail to respond and/or provide requested information within the given timeframe, the complaint will be closed as unresolved. As a direct consequence of such closure, the operator's ranking score on AskGamblers will be decreased accordingly.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

User name loyalty-level-2
Now i have recieved an e-mail from them:
"Please note that your account has not passed the security check, so it has been blocked for violation of clause 9.1 of the GTC without the possibility of reopening.

Your winnings have been deducted."

They have not sent any evidence, why is not passed the security check. I have sent everthing for them what they wanted. Not to mention, of course, that my winnings were canceled. This is completely unfair because all the documents they needed were sent. On multiple channels.They aint give me any evidence or any idea about what happened that they might understand as violating their T&C. Is this usual practice that you just quote any paragraph of your T&C instead of a logical and transparent argument why you decide to close a user account and to keep all its money!?

If you want to give your potential future customers (who read these complaints on ASKGAMBLERS, and I know from many gamblers that they do) the feeling of security and trust in you and your platform, please try to resolve this issue here with me if you are really convinced that it was right what you did.

Rabona Casino Beschwerde-Statistik

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Durchschn. Betrag $1,972
Durchschn. Dauer 6 Tage
Durchschn. Antwortzeit 2 Tage
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Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

bevor ich meine Beschwerde nochmals Beschreibe, ein Hinweis zu dem angeblich fehlenden Dokument der letzten Beschwerde: Meine Mail vom 05.08.2021 an Rabona ist inklusive Datum und Zeit als Dokument beigefügt. Das war sie auch schon in meiner letzten Beschwerde (oder es hat etwas in der Übermittlung nicht funktioniert. Mir ist aufgefallen das beim Hochladen der Dokumente auf Ihrer Plattform manche als Vorschau angezeigt werden inkl grünem Haken und manche Dokumente mit 100% aber ohne grüne Haken. Ggf. hatte ich vlt. zu viele Dokumente auf einmal hochgeladen). Wenn Sie die Beschwerde abgelehnt haben weil die Antwort seitens Rabona auf diese Mail fehlt, dann haben Sie genau den Grund meiner Beschwerde gefunden. Es gibt auf die Mails von Anfang August keinerlei Reaktion von Rabona und daher wurde auch mein Spielerkonto nicht gesperrt. Ich habe weiter eingezahlt und Verluste gemacht. Genau diese Nicht-Reaktion seitens Rabona ist der Anlass meiner Beschwerde. Und ich kann ja leider keine Antwort von Rabona hinzufügen wenn es keine Antwort gab. Die erste Reaktion seitens Rabona kam leider erst später, am 18.09.21, auch diese Mail ist hinzugefügt.

Und nun nochmal insgesamt der Verlauf des Vorfalls. Am 4.8.21 (10:01 Uhr --> Dokument 20210804_Mail Rabona) und 5.8.21 (9:31 Uhr --> Dokument 20210805_Mail Rabona) machte ich Rabona erstmals auf meine Spielsucht per Mail aufmerksam und bat darum mein Konto zu schließen. Gem. der Website verpflichtet sich Rabona zu verantwortlichem Spielen und beantwortet lt. Website Mails innerhalb von 45 Minuten. Leider blieb eine Reaktion seitens Rabona aus. Ich schickte Rabona am 18.08.21 und 16.09.21 weitere Mails. Erst am 18.09.21 wurde endlich reagiert und mein Spielerkonto geschlossen. Im Zeitraum vom 06.08.21 bis 16.09.21 habe ich 900 Euro bei Rabona eingezahlt und verloren. Dies hätte aufgrund der Bitte um Schließung meines Spielerkontos nicht mehr geschehen dürfen. Daher fordere ich die 900 Euro zurück da Rabona hier nicht gehandelt hat wie sie es anpreisen und wie verantwortlich sie handeln wollen.

Nach dem 18.09.21 fand ein regelmäßiger schriftlicher Austausch statt. Rabona und ich konnten uns aber nicht auf eine Lösung verständigen. Der Einreichung von Nachweisen bin ich stets nachgekommen. Ich habe sogar wie gewünscht ein Video aufgenommen um zu zeigen, dass die Mails in meinem GMX-Postfach sind bzw. von dort versendet wurden. Das Video ist hier zum hochladen leider zu groß. Daher habe ich Screenshots beigefügt. Sofern Sie das Video möchten, kann ich es Ihnen gerne auf einem anderen Weg zur Verfügung stellen. Lt. Rabona hat das Video eine zu schlechte Qualität und auch auf den Screenshots wäre nichts erkennbar. Dies stimmt aber de facto nicht. Sie können sich selbst davon überzeugen.

Bitte beachten Sie, dass wirklich alle Dokumente hochgeladen sind. Wenn eine Antwort seitens Rabona fehlt, dann deshalb weil es sie nicht gibt. Alle Mails sind wie folgt bezeichnet: JJJJMMDD. Die Uhrzeit der Mails ist im Dokument selbst zu sehen.

Ich bitte um Annahme der Beschwerde. Sie ist gerechtfertigt und der Anbieter Rabona sollte seiner Verantwortung Rechnung tragen.

Viele Grüße

Florian < surname removed >

Status solved Gelöst
€900