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Refused to pay 20 000€ in legitimate winnings without any reason


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Von cce
vor 10 Jahren
English isn't my best but i'll try with some help to explain it good. Started playing at betsafe a while ago made a deposit without bonus and played, it went well, when i reached 15 000€ i decided to take out the money, of course they asked for ID and such so i took some pictures and sent them. They got approved after a while the money was back in my account, so i played a little bit more and was now up in 20 000€ then i made a new withdrawal.

Then it goes a day and i can't login to my account, i contact them and they say that it is under investigation and ask me for more pictures, after a while they tell me that my account is locked and will never be opened again. When i ask them why they tell me that i broke against 8.11 and that rule is a complete joke.

So i started a thread on another site and they contacted me and we talked on the phone and she said that she thought we could solve this and everything then i got a e-mail that the account will still be locked but if i could send a picture on my passport i should do it. I've been sick and in hospital for a while so when i got home i got some help to send the picture, and know we're back on square one..

Once again im sorry for the language but hoping that you understand me and can help me in this matter.
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Dear all,

Following a careful review and consideration of all the information, details and/or proof presented by the parties during the complaint process, the AskGamblers Complaint Team reached the conclusion that Betsafe Casino management acted in accordance with their Terms and Conditions.

Based on the abovementioned information, the AskGamblers Complaint Team considers this case resolved and it is now officially closed. While we understand this might not be the outcome expected by the complainant, we would like to remind you that, in case of a disagreement with our decision, further assistance on the matter could be requested from the relevant regulatory body and/or appointed ADR entity.

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Hello,

As a licensed operator, we are obliged to ensure that we perform due diligence checks on our customers in order for us to verify their account details and selected payments methods. The customer was not able to supply us with verification as we requested it. The decisions taken here were done in line with the below terms and conditions, which were supplied at the time to the customer on the 30th of March 2016:

7.1 You must register and play on your own behalf only and not on behalf of anyone else.
7.10 You agree that we can check you are who you claim to be. You agree to give us all documents we request to prove your registration information and payment details, such as (by way of example only) a copy of your passport, utility bills or bank statements.
8.12 If we suspect that you are involved in illegal or fraudulent activities relating to your use of the Site (or a third parties use of the Site) or are in trouble with creditors or are involved in any other behaviour detrimental to the Site, we may freeze or close Your Account and /or cancel stakes.
9.3 Prior to accepting a withdrawal we may request that you provide legal identification for example certified copies of passports, ID cards or other such documentation as we feel is required in the circumstances. We may also carry out phone verification, face verification or other such verification as is required to ensure that you are who you say you are.
20.1 If we suspect that you have breached these Rules, we may refuse to open, suspend or close Your Account. We may also withhold any money in Your Account (including the deposit) and set off any money or damages due to us against the money in Your Account.

The customer was subsequently referred to contact our regulator in the same E-mail, and as a licensed operator, we naturally abide by their rulings.

Due to the nature of the complaint, we are unfortunately not able to provide any further information concerning this complaint to any other than relevant authorities.

Kind regards,
Pierre
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Dear all,

Kindly be notified that this complaint is being reopened following the declared willingness on behalf of Betsafe Casino management to do everything within their power to resolve their outstanding AGCCS cases. The AskGamblers Complaint Team will gladly assist by giving any of these old cases an additional chance for a successful resolution.

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Due the new events AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this complaint Unresolved. As soon as AskGamblers Complaints Team receive regulator's final decision we will comply and mark the case accordingly.

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