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Von Colter W.
vor 1 Jahr

I have been trying to work with BetOnRed to verify my account.

They are requesting a proof of deposit document that has my name, transaction amount, the receiver's name, transaction ID, time, and date.

I deposited using Interac E-transfer from my bank account and it was paid to Gigadat. Unfortunately, there is no singular document from my bank that contains all of these details. I made it clear both via email response to their support email and via their live chat, that I would have to supply multiple documents to piece together all of this information. I have asked for support on why they are declining my documents specifically. The responses I have received are:

"Thank you for contacting us! Please be advised the proof of deposit has to contain your name, transaction amount, receiver’s name, transaction ID, time, or date.

If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact us!"

and

"Thank you for contacting us! Please be advised the missing information is included in the provided list.

If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact us!"

This deposit was made on March 5th, in my time zone, and I have been trying to get funds out since March 11th.

I did have what seemed like a productive conversation with a live chat about it and they seemed to agree that sending two documents would be fine. But support is not giving me anything to work with at all, it has become increasingly frustrating.

I am looking to withdraw the funds I have in my account, totaling $3,524.98 and step one is to get this account fully verified. I am happy to provide more documents, but I need to know why this is being held up.

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User name

Dear all,

As apparent from the submitter's latest post, the AskGamblers Complaint Team is pleased to announce the case has been resolved and closed.

We thank both parties for their assistance during the complaint process.

User name loyalty-level-2
It wasn’t the most enjoyable experience, but we got there in the end. I do believe some lines were crossed in terms of the questions asked and the information that was requested. That said, this complaint can now be marked as resolved.

Thank you to the AskGamblers team for providing a platform that allows issues like this to be addressed.
User name
Dear Player,

Please note that your case is still under review. Our team is actively working on it, and we appreciate your patience during this process. We will update you as soon as we have more information.

Best regards,
BetOnRed Team
User name loyalty-level-2
I have to be honest — I don’t share the sentiment that progress is being made.

Yesterday, my account was marked as verified and withdrawals were enabled, but I received no notice or communication from the Betonred team. A few hours after I re-requested my withdrawal, it was cancelled — again, with no notification or explanation. When I contacted live chat for answers, I was told that additional documentation was needed, despite my account status showing as verified and no longer offering the ability to upload files. Since then, I’ve submitted five more documents that directly address their stated requirements — all of which have been rejected without clear or valid explanation.

The current issue appears to be related to verifying the source of funds used to fund my account. I fully understand the intent behind Enhanced Due Diligence, and I’m willing to cooperate. That said, my deposit was made via Interac e-Transfer — not cryptocurrency — and there’s been no suggestion that I’m a politically exposed person, involved in illegal activity, or on any sanctions list. I'm more than willing to participate in the process, but it becomes nearly impossible to do so when Betonred refuses to provide specific or consistent guidance about what they require.

One possible point of confusion may be the source of funds survey, where I identified as retired. I am a stay-at-home father. While I haven’t formally filed for retirement (because in Canada that process begins at age 60), “retired” was more accurate than “temporarily unemployed,” as I have no intention of re-entering the workforce.

To meet Betonred’s source of funds requirements, I have already provided the following:

A bank statement from the last 90 days — rejected

Full bank statements covering the past 3 months — rejected

A savings account statement — rejected

A pension statement — rejected on the grounds it was "older than 90 days" (it wasn’t)

A savings account statement showing a recent withdrawal — also rejected

Now they are claiming I must provide a savings account that has had a withdrawal within the last 90 days and a bank statement showing incoming deposit transactions — which I have already submitted five times. Because my deposit to Betonred was made on March 5th, they now insist the bank statement must include that specific date, dismissing deposit evidence from just a few days earlier in February as insufficient.

At this point, it's hard not to see this as excessive. It feels less like a compliance process and more like an attempt to find an excuse not to process a legitimate withdrawal simply because I don’t manage my finances in a way they deem suitable. Fortunately, I did make a recent enough savings withdrawal to satisfy the request — and yet even that was rejected.

I also want to note that Betonred’s two responses to this complaint were submitted right at the deadline and said virtually the same thing both times: that they believe progress is being made and that they’ve recently asked for another document. This reflects the same pattern I’ve experienced throughout this process — vague, last-minute responses that lack any meaningful justification.

I’ve made a consistent and genuine effort to comply and move things forward. At this point, I don’t believe the same can be said for Betonred.

It is not Betonred’s responsibility — nor is it within their legal mandate — to determine whether my personal financial habits meet their internal preferences. Their obligations are clearly defined under the National Ordinance on Identification when Rendering Services (LID) and the National Ordinance on the Reporting of Unusual Transactions (LMOT), which govern AML and KYC procedures in Curaçao. These regulations require them to confirm that I am a real person, that I am not involved in illegal activity, that I am not a politically exposed person (PEP), and that I am not listed on any international sanctions lists. The documentation I have provided already satisfies these requirements — and goes well beyond what is necessary to do so. Any continued delays or denials at this point are not about regulatory compliance; they are obstruction.

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Hallo lieber Support!

Mein Account wurde am 05.04.2024 ohne die Angabe von Gründen geschlossen (siehe Screenshot mit der Login Page, die sagt "Ihr Konto ist deaktiviert") und ich fand dies auch nur heraus, als ich mich wieder auf der Seite zum Spielen einloggen wollte. Über eine Mail wurde ich nicht darüber informiert.
Dann habe ich am 08.04.2024 die erste Mail an den Support verfasst und gefragt, was mit meiner Auszahlung vom 30.03.2024 passiert, die eh schon deutlich länger als üblich ausstehend war.
Am Freitag 12.04.2024 erhielt ich dann eine Email, dass meine Auszahlung abgelehnt wurde (siehe Screenshots unten) wieder ohne Angabe eines Grundes.
Daraufhin schrieb ich die zweite Mail an den BetonRed Support am 13.04.2024 (siehe screenshots), um nachzufragen, was mit meiner Auszahlung und meinem Konto jetzt passiert. Ich habe auch meine Krypto-Auszahlungsadresse angegeben, um die Auszahlung weiterhin empfangen zu können.
Heute (14.04.2024) bekam ich die Antwort vom Support (siehe Screenshots) auf meine erste Mail vom 08.04.2024, in der einfach nur kurz gesagt wurde, dass mein Konto nun geschlossen sei.
Das war soweit der Verlauf der Dinge bisher ----------------------

Meine Forderung ist nicht, dass mein Konto wieder eröffnet wird. Ich möchte einfach nur meine letzte Auszahlung in der Höhe von ca. 1500€ noch erhalten, da ich rechtmäßig auf der Website gespielt habe und vorher meine Einzahlung auch drei mal vollständig umgesetzt habe, sodass die Auszahlungsbedingungen auch erfüllt waren.

Ich hoffe das Problem lässt sich schnell und fair lösen und
Beste Grüße
Lino M.
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They refuse to withdraw my money

Two weeks ago, I deposited 6,000 HUF into my casino account and activated a bonus. I fulfilled all the bonus requirements and kept playing until I accumulated 59,150 HUF (147 EUR), which was clearly in my "real money" balance. The next day, I initiated a withdrawal. I entered all the details correctly, and there should have been no obstacles. According to the policy, my withdrawal was supposed to arrive within 24 hours.

However, by the next day, the money had not arrived. I contacted customer support, who told me that there was some technical issue, that a specialist colleague would take over my case, and that they had informed the finance team. They assured me that the money would be in my account within a maximum of five business days.

After waiting for a week and a half, the system marked the transaction as successful, but the money was returned to my casino balance.

After proving that the money never arrived in my account, a casino representative asked me to restart the withdrawal process, assuring me that everything was now fine and that the money would arrive within 24 hours.

The next day, 24 hours had passed, and the transaction had not even reached the verification stage. I contacted customer support again, and they once more forwarded my case to a specialist who, according to them, would resolve it within an hour. They asked for one more hour of patience.

After 30 minutes, I received an email stating that my withdrawal had been canceled. I contacted customer support again, and they once again asked me to initiate the withdrawal process. They could not explain what the issue was or how long it would take to resolve it.

After another 24 hours, my withdrawal failed again. The Betonred support team then emailed me, asking me to use a different payment method.

The issue with this request is that their policy explicitly states that I must withdraw using the same method I used for my deposit. However, I still complied and attempted to withdraw via Skrill.

Meanwhile, two other support agents told me that this wouldn’t work because I didn’t deposit using Skrill. When I showed them the email from their own team, they started stammering and said the back-office team would notify me.

Of course, today I received yet another email stating that my fourth withdrawal attempt failed due to their policy.

This is my first withdrawal, and I have successfully completed all verification processes. It simply seems like they have no intention of paying out players' winnings.

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