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Game provider manager on duty made a mistake, but casino refused to admit mistake


8 anni fa
The photo was a screenshot taken at 12.31pm Tuesday 23 January 2018 New Zealand time, which can be checked from property of the photo. I uploaded the photo so that people who visit the website can tell me whether the second card for banker is a picture or not.

This is a long story, but I’ll make it short as much as I can.

This happened on January 23 at close to 12:30pm New Zealand time. Game table is baccarat controlled squeeze, dealer is Natalia, hand number is #48. When the dealer dealt the cards, one of the cards was not scanned, so she notified the supervising manager on duty to manually enter the cards. When all 6 cards were shown on the table, they are: player’s hand in order Queen of spades, King of spades, 6 of clubs, banker’s hand in order 3 of clubs, 7 of diamonds, 7 of hearts. So the player’s cards total 0-0-6, and the banker’s cards total 3-7-7. This means banker wins 7 over 6. When the manager manually entered the cards into the system, he entered them in the order of the cards being dealt. He entered Queen of spades, 6 of clubs, King of spades, and instead of entering 7 of diamonds shown on the table, he repeated what he had done for player, he entered King of spades again for banker. He then entered the third cards for player and banker, 6 of clubs, 7 of hearts. This has changed the result of the hand, which is player 0-0-6 winning over 3-0-7. The dealer saw the mistake, and paused there, waiting for the manager to correct. But unfortunately the manager was gone. So the dealer waited there for nearly 2 minutes. This gave me the chance to use my cellphone to take a screen shot of the hand (normally, when a hand finishes, the dealer dismissed the cards straight away, you never have the time to take a photo). I raised the issue with leo support through live chat, they looked at the matter, as they couldn’t see anything wrong in the system, they told me there is nothing wrong with this hand. Of course there is nothing wrong with it, as the system shows whatever is entered correct, whether it is entered correctly or not. So on the following day, I emailed my screenshot to leo support. However, they say the decision was made, and it is the right decision, there is nothing wrong with that hand, player won, banker lost. What is worse, when I chatted with leo in live chat, the girl suggested the photo I provided could be taken any time from any shoe, as there is no time stamped on it, and the photo is too blurry to see. I asked her to tell me whether the second card for banker is a picture or not many times, but she never answered me, which indicates to me she can see it’s not a picture. I also ask her to check property of the photo to see when it was taken, but she said she couldn’t find it. What she really suggest is I fabricated a story, and there is nothing wrong with leo. This really made me crazy. Is it worthwhile for me to fabricate a photo because of a $20 bet? I have asked them to show the photo to the dealer and ask her to confirm, but nobody listened. They insist leo’s decision is correct, I am wrong. On that hand, 93% was bet on banker and 7% was on player. I don’t know if leo will review the matter if 93% was bet on player.

I lodge this complaint not because of my money, but because of the truth!
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Based on submitter's last post AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is officially closed now.

Thank you all for your cooperation.

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Dear AskGamblers,

Thank you so much to help resolve the issue. The website is so wonderful, without which this issue could never have been fixed. The comments made by AskGamblers indicate extremely high professional standard, not only in respect of understanding games, but also fairness, which is very important. I believe that’s why the website is rated among the best. Again thank you very much.

Allan
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HI Jakob,

Thanks for letting me know the result. I’m happy the mistake has been corrected and the issue is now resolved. I also appreciate the attitude of Leo, and the game provider Evolution, towards resolving the issue, as casinos never lose unless they lose creditability. We can all move on from now.

Cheers

Allan
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Hi Allan,

We have now received a reply from Evolution, and i can see that a member of our customer support team have also sent you an email regarding this.

There did occur an error in relation to the manually entered card, and the wrong card was entered as you previously stated.
The correct winnings was therefore credited to your account earlier today.

We fully understand if this issue have been an inconvenience, and apologise for the error.
I am however happy to see that the issue with your game round is now resolved, despite the long processing time.

Should you have any other queries, you are more than welcome to get in touch with our customer support.

Have a great day,
Jakob

Statistiche sui reclami di LeoVegas Casino

Risolto 152 / 167
Importo medio $5,878
Durata media del reclamo 9 giorni
Risposta media 2 giorni
2 mesi per pagare 150 euro
il 16 giugno mi registro su leovegas, verifico i documenti, carico 100 euro e gioco per circa un'oretta alle slot, rischio di perdere tutto ma poi arrivo a 151 euro circa sul conto. Non di certo una grande cifra, ma sempre 50 euro in più rispetto ai 100 iniziali. Allora decido di prelevare.
fin qui tutto bene, tranne che il giorno dopo provo ad accedere al mio account e risulta bloccato. Qui inizia il cinema.

Contatto l'assistenza e mi viene detto " il suo conto è bloccato per un controllo di routine, la contatteremo appena il dipartimento di sicuirezza ci darà l'ok".
Decido di attendere, passano i giorni e le settimane... ogni tanto contattavo l'assistenza clienti e mi sentivo sempre dire le stesse cose " è in corso un controllo di sicurezza, la contatteremo ecc ecc."
oggi 22 agosto è successo l'incredibile, torno dalle vacanze decido di riprovare a contattare l'assistenza sottolienando che ho un accoutn bloccato da 2 mesi. L'operatore mi inizia a fare domande del tipo "Quanto pensi che il gioco d'azzardo influisca sul tuo umore" e cose del genere per poi concludere dicendo che appena il dipartimento di sicurezza valuterà le mie risposte verrò contattato da loro...

insomma più di due mesi per cosa? per sentirmi ripetere nuovamente le stesse cose.... ma la cosa che mi fa più arrabbiare è che si tratta di 151 euro non di 15 mila euro !!! Ormai io l'ho presa come questione di principio quindi non intendeo demordere.

Scrivo su questo forum perchè ho visto che altre questioni simili sono state risolto, spero possa succedere lo stesso a me.... altrimenti procederò per vie legali perchè questo comportamendo del casino mi sembra inaccettabile e per di più una presa in giro, ripeto per 150 euro!
Status solved Risolto
€150
Has locked my account due to security reason
Hey guys,

So a little side information before we get into it all I'm located in Ontario Canada and therefore a regulated market by igaming and it is 100% legal here. I've been wagering for over 2 decades on sports and casino games so I'm very familiar with multiple books and how terms and conditions go and what is industry standard when it comes to customer service

So let's dive into it

I signed up for LeoVegas back in OCT 2023. I strictly play online slots with this provider. Nothing else. I used their new user promo which I believe was - depo $250 get 100% match x5 roll over or something.

Rolled it over and won a bit of money. Continued to play and use all the promotions they were offering me and over the months I grew the account to almost $11000. I would continue to deposit and withdrawal(to unlock promotions) and roll them over. At some point in March 2024 I pulled out $3400 and brought the account down to $7500. I continued to play as normal until about 3-4 weeks ago when I noticed withdrawals were taking way longer than usual. Typically it would be within a few hours then it was a few days and then it got to a point where I had to use the live chat and ask for my withdrawal to be processed. Deposits were still instant.

So last week I go on live chat and request my withdrawal to be processed and the agent says that in order to do this I need to verify my documents. I then say I have already done this when I first signed up and that I wouldn't have been able to ask chat the last few times to process my withdrawals(as well as the 100+ other withdrawals I made since first signing up). They say "no you need to verify your documents". So I go look and sure enough my documents are gone. I re-upload everything and get the confirmation I am fully verified(have screen shot). The agent processes my withdrawal no problem. Monday May 13th rolls around and I go to sign into my account only to find I've been locked out. So I hop on the live chat and ask if I need to reset my password or if there were too many failed attempts which is typically how account's get locked. The agent states this is not the issue. So I ask what is the problem? They reply that they can't provide this information and that I will receive an email from their "relevant department". I ask when I should I expect this email? The agent states it's a que based system and it will get handled in order.

It's been 5 days and they won't tell me anything while holding my $7000 hostage (this money is not attached to any sort of roll over requirements which is confirmed by live support)

Things they can't tell me about my account

Why it was locked? What department is handling my account? How long will this process take?

Things they can tell me about my account

My funds are still there

AskGamblers please help!
Status solved Risolto
$7,000
Verification problem with the casino
I played on LeoVegas and won some money I wanted to withdraw. Once I withdrawed €1500 I recieved an email that I should verify my account and I proceeded to do so. Unfortunately when I came to my Identity verification it asked me to upload a photo of my passport or drivers licence - I do not own any of that, I have only my Identity card. I contacted support to check if they are approving that and was told that they do so and they sent me new links to upload it. When I pressed on link it didn't give me that option still. I contacted support again and they told me to send an email and I did - to this day I still haven't recieved any feedback. So I decided to contact support again when they told me they do not accept ID card only passport and/or drivers licence once I told them their colleague told me differently they said that they actually do accept it and that I should upload it in drivers license part and that they will accept that. When I uploaded my ID card in drivers license section they just rejected it and said it's wrong document. I really only want to verify my account and withdraw money and they are making it impossible. I am very frustrated and stressed with this situation and don't know who else to contact regarding this issue. I had similar problem with my proof of address - I uploaded 2 different documents dated less than 3 months from today and they just kept rejecting it. They just keep changing stories and it became very frustrating and stressful for me to deal with.
Status solved Risolto
€1,500