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Last October 15, 2021, I was playing the new game Chronicles of Olympus X Up. I was betting normally at a stake of $1.50 before deciding to go for buy bonus of $60 for three times in a row which gave me winnings of $60, $48 and supposedly $120.50. However, I’ve noticed that my remaining balance is not right. So I went to my activity page, there I’ve noticed that I was charged $150 stake instead of $1.50 in one round. And on my third bonus buy instead of getting $120.50 of winnings they only add $10 on that round. I was missing $259 in total of the stake and bonus combined. So I’ve reported it on the 24/7 online chat support and they gave me a case number.

On their activity page you can clearly see that if it is a normal bet without winnings, it will show you the stake size and the “BET”.

On the other hand, if you won something from a normal round or a bonus buy it will show you the exact amount of winnings as well as the word “WIN”

Moreover, the Maximum bet size for the game (Chronicles of Olympus X Up) that I played is $21.

There is no $150 bet size on that game that’s why I thought it was a glitch or some kind of technical error.

I attached a screenshot of the bet sizes on the game I played as well as the activity page but I was given a false response from them. The support team insisted that I bought a $150 buy in bonus game and that I won $120.50, then where is it? Why is the $120.50 not visible on the activity page and was replaced by $10 of winnings. I told them that they could review and even replay the bonus game but all my efforts of telling the truth and also my time was just wasted not getting the right answers from a whole support team.


Moreover, last October 20, 2021. I was playing 5 Lions, got a bonus game and won $75 but again not added on my account. I was given a case number but until now I haven’t got any updates from them.

I hope all paying customers get what they deserved.

I’ve attached screenshot from Betsafe’s activity page and the stake sizes for Chronicles of Olympus X Up.

I also got a screenshot of the history page for 5 Lion which I haven’t got any response until now.

Thank you very much
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Dear all,

As apparent from the submitter's latest post, the AskGamblers Complaint Team is pleased to announce the case has been resolved and closed.

We thank both parties for their assistance during the complaint process.

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Thank you very much, I am happy with the response I’ve got from Betsafe. I clearly understand what happened now. Thank you Pierre an more power to Ask Gamblers Team!! Cheer!
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Dear @Retsech07,

The AskGamblers Complaint Team is kindly asking you to update your complaint in a timely manner and confirm if you consider the issue resolved. Please note that, in case you fail to respond within the given timeframe we will consider your case resolved and it will be closed accordingly.

Please keep in mind that as per the AGCCS Terms and Guidelines which you accepted upon registering and using our complaint system, you are obliged to provide the necessary level of assistance and cooperation during the process and providing updates in a timely manner is a must.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

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Hello,

I am sorry to hear that you have had a negative experience while playing in our Casino. I would like to respond by clearing out some confusion in regards to the aforementioned game rounds.

Firstly concerning your game round with ID 17396_1430 from October 15.
In this game round, you won 8 free spins by getting 3x Scatter symbols on your reels during your spin. When triggering free spins, you get to play with your initial wager with a multiplier which depends on the amount of Scatter symbols you have collected previously during your game play. There is also an Upsizer function within this slot where you can purchase a higher bet multiplier for a predetermined cost. In this case, you chose to play with 10x mutliplier at a cost of 150 CAD. Once selected, you had to once more confirm your choice where you were once again informed about the price of the spin which you had selected, and you had the option to go back or proceed. You chose to proceed with your wager and bet 150.00 CAD in your spin. This 10x multiplier would then apply to each winning you got while playing with those free spins.

Your winnings while playing these free spins were accordingly (calculated with the 10x boost included):
Free Spin 01: 0.00 CAD
Free Spin 02: 2.50 CAD
Free Spin 03: 0.00 CAD
Free Spin 04: 0.00 CAD
Free Spin 05: 60.00 CAD
Free Spin 06: 0.00 CAD
Free Spin 07: 0.00 CAD
Free Spin 08: 0.00 CAD +2 Free spins (From getting 2 scatter symbols on your reels)
Free Spin 09: 48.00 CAD
Free Spin 10: 10.00 CAD
Total: 120.50 CAD

Added together, this generated 120.50 CAD. However, the funds were added as soon as you won them from each free spin for this particular game, not in a bulk sum after the game round was completely over. This means that you see the 120.50 CAD in your transactions list as 4 separate winnings which together adds up to 120.50 CAD in total.
Taking this into consideration, I can confirm that the game round was played and settled correctly, and that all winnings were successfully credited to your game round.


Concerning your second disputed game round with ID 5236493964417 from October 20, I can see that the game round together with the free spins should have had a 75 CAD pay out which unfortunately was never credited. We have contacted our provider concerning the missing winning, but we have unfortunately not yet received a reply. As a gesture of good faith, I have proceeded to forward the query to our Payments team to credit the funds to you ahead of the provider confirmation, and they should be credited to your Betsafe account shortly, if they have not already by the time you read this.

I hope this helps clear out any confusion concerning the two disputed game rounds and I wish you a wonderful day.

Kind regards,
Pierre

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No me llegan los 50 giros gratis para el juego Starbucks
Hola, ví una publicidad de betsafe en la cual indicaban que por crear una cuenta y realizar un depósito de 40 soles te daban 50 giros gratis en uno de sus juegos de casino, específicamente en Starbucks, aparte de la jugada gratuita para apuestas deportivas, esta última si me llegó, al notar que los 50 giros gratis no me llegaban procedí a buscar su asistente en línea mediante el chat en vivo que brindan, la persona que me atendió me indicó que me apoyaría en una par de ocasiones y luego de realizar sus revisiones respectivas me indicaba que ya se me había habilitado los 50 giros por lo cual me pidió cerrar sesión e iniciar nuevamente en el casino, pese a esto el problema continuó y me indicó que le envíe captura de pantalla del juego y me brindó un correo muy distinto al que pertenece a la casa de apuestas, esto lo noté ya que el nombre del correo indicaba betssom, y tal como sospechaba cuando envié el correo me indicaron en betssom que yo no estaba registrado con ellos con ese correo, lo cual era un hecho ya que yo esto jugando en betsafe, cuando esto sucedió mi molestia aumentó ya que me parece poco profesional que ocurra algo así al momento que atienden un problema, por otro lado cuando volví al chat en vivo noté que al enviarme el correo el asistente virtual se desconectó y dejaron mi problema sin resolver y a la deriva, quisiera que al menos tengan la delicadeza de contactarse y puedan brindar una solución a sus clientes, porque la experiencia que llevo hasta el momento es que por un lado realizan publicidad engañosa y por otro lado la atención cuando uno necesita ayuda es pésima, por este medio adjunto las conversaciones como la captura de pantalla del juego
Status solved Resuelta
Retiro total de fondos Error 20012
Me contacto por éste medio para que me ayuden.
Ya que el operador mencionado (Betsafe) en sus recientes respuestas de hace unos días indica que la cuenta ya está habilitada para el inicio de sesión y el retiro total de los fondos, sin embargo al intentar el retiro figura "error 20012". Se informó de ello al chat y me responde que solo queda esperar, que va derivar el caso (Llevo esperando una solución concreta más de 3 meses) y al informar a su soporte mediante correo responde que intente desde un dispositivo móvil, una pestaña de incógnito y demás.
Se procedió nuevamente a intentarlo en distintos dispositivos y presenta el mismo error.
Realmente es muy frustrante la situación. Es un tiempo demasiado extendido. A raíz de digitar mal mis datos en el registro, en mi 1er apellido digitando Paohuanaco (Siendo correcto Pacohuanaco) omitiendo la letra "c" y en mi fecha de nacimiento digitando 15 por el 16. Al no revisar detenidamente se me pasó, ya que estuve ansiosa por empezar y sumando a ello que sufro de miopía (No contaba con los lentes puestos). Ya al depositar mi dinero e iniciar sesión es donde me doy cuenta, al ingresar a mi perfil y ver los datos equivocados, de inmediato me contactó con el chat e informó sobre los detalles a lo que me sugieren esperar hasta regularizar ello para evitar problemas futuros, por ello no generé ningún movimiento. Y me contacté con soporte a lo cual me solicitaron subir mis documentos en el sistema de la cuenta en "verificación de cuenta". Se subió mi documento de identidad (D.N.I.) en ambos lados, recibo de servicios (El cual figura a nombre de mi abuelo por ser el titular de la vivienda) y una foto mía portando mi D.N.I.
Se cumplió con éxito la verificación de cuenta ya que se envió lo solicitado, sin embargo no me ayudaron sino restringieron mi cuenta e inhabilitaron. Luego me pidieron explicaciones absurdas del por qué mi D.N.I. no coincide con los datos registrados, el porqué figura el documento de un tercero (Supongo que se refiere al recibo de servicios). Se respondió con las explicaciones del caso, pero ello no respondían por semanas. Y tuve que volver a contactar con chat y enviar un correo nuevo tanto a soporte en el idioma ingles y español. Escribí por facebook al mesenger de Betsafe Perú y también en comentarios.
Ya luego de mucho tiempo me responden con lo informado en un principio.
Que mi cuenta se encuentra habilitada para inicio de sesión y el retiro total de los fondos y demás.
Pero aún no me facilitan ello. Más se han encargado de ponerme obstáculos.
Son más de 3 meses que me tienen angustiada y con el estrés que produce dicha situación. Afectando mi salud emocional.
Me produce demasiada tristeza la situación. Reclamo mi dinero ya que me dejan de manos atadas. Y porque ya me hace falta. Es injusto que me perjudiquen así.
Ni que estuviera esperando un bebé o un regalo de navidad. Más empatía y compromiso para resolver la situación.
Espero el apoyo del caso y la pronto solución.
Adjunto capturas.
Gracias.
Status unsolved No resuelta
Delayed verification and rejected withdrawal
I started using Betsafe on 22.6.2024 when I deposited 1000 euros into my account, after that I generated some winnings and I withdrew my initial deposit of 1000 euros + 50 euros winnings (1050 euro withdrawal made 6.7.2024), the withdrawal that time was succcesful. I made another withdrawal of 300 euros 13.7.2024, that one also was successful. Now when I tried to make a withdrawal 30.7.2024 of 2002,99 euros, Betsafe wanted additional verification. Of course I have used betting sites before and I understand their KYC process, so I provided every document that they asked for. I sent in many documents (bankstatements, proof of income, etc.) so that they got exactly what they wanted, but it is all correctly sent in and accepted by Betsafe. Every document they have asked for, I have provided.

8.8.2024 I sent in the last requested document and I have now awaited any news since then. There have been no updates from livechat or email support and they are telling me that they are unable to help until the relevant department have reviewed the documents. I cannot understand why this verification is taking so long.
The requested withdrawal I made of 2002,99 (30.7.2024) euros has now suddenly been cancelled without any action on my behalf so now I am getting worried that there is something else going on.

I have given Betsafe a lot of my time and patience but now I am hoping that this forum might help me solve this case, so we can all move on with our lives.
Status solved Resuelta
€2,003