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Von yucman82
vor 11 Jahren
First, I made my deposit with Neteller and won at the casino games. Then I asked them to send my win to Neteller. They asked for many papers.
I sent them my identifications and my billing address proof and proof of payment - a copy of my Neteller.

Then they ask me for bank information, like account number, swift code and I tell them to send my win to Neteller and they say they will try but still want my bank information so I give them all my bank information, account number, SWIFT, and all the other information.

Then they also say they want my bank statement and my bank card details even though I said to pay me by Neteller. I told them I will not send my statement and copy of card because I will not risk giving out all this information so that they could access my bank account. I tell them I want to be paid by Neteller but if they insist they can send me the bank wire to my bank account. They have all the information required to send me a bank wire.

But they keep insisting for bank statement and all my card details so I tell them I will open a new bank account if they want wall of that and they say that is fine. I open a new bank account with only a little money so that there is not the risk of them stealing from my account. I send them my bank statement and they still insist on my bank card too. I have to wait 15 days for the bank to issue the new card and I send them the picture of the card.

After all this they said I took too long to send them all of this even though they are delaying because they take days to answer emails and I have to follow up with emails
all the time because they don't answer my first email. Then they keep asking more things. Then they say they they "are unable to verify my identity/there are inconsistencies" and they will not pay me! I ask them why they cannot verify and they never answer my email.

After I send them multiple identifications, billing proofs, copies of my neteller, bank details for 2 of my bank accounts, bank statement, and copy of my bank card they still say they cannot verify my identity and will not pay. A joke?
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User name
We didn't get evidence from the casino to confirm their statement. We consider this complaint unresolved.
User name loyalty-level-2
"One of the AML guidelines is set in our ground rule we do not allow players to request payouts to bank accounts they are not connected to."
What are you talking about? This is ridiculous.
1) I gave you my bank information. I provided my statement and card. It is clearly my bank account.
2) If you sent a wire transfer to my name and the bank account was "not connected to me", the bank would not credit my account obviously because the name has to match.

There is no inconsistency whatsoever. I sent you multiple ID cards, bill, bank statement, neteller information and they are all mine.

You are simply not paying because I won.
User name
Hello,

There are a few reasons this player received a refund for his deposit which is in question and why we decided to close his account.
By nature or law, we must do all what is our power to prevent Money laundering. In the case of this player, we feel a high risk for ML due to a set of reasons.
For legal reasons, we can only mention a few here:
One of the AML guidelines is set in our ground rule we do not allow players to request payouts to bankaccounts they are not connected to. To prevent and follow up on AML guidelines, we always require as a part of our KYC process prove of the inserted banking details to be yours or legally connected. We do use IBAN and SWIFT confirmation tools for this as well. This player is from Mozambique. We have tried multiple times to verify his data. The legal department found inconsistansies in his KYC materials as well. All reasons added up lead to the fact the account is closed, and the deposit will be refunded shortly.
User name loyalty-level-2
I setn email to tell them I put my complaint here. I do not have any update as of now.

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Sieger Spielothek - Aktualisierung meiner E-Mail Adresse sehr verzögert, Auszahlung nicht möglich

Hallo zusammen,

am 25.04.2021 habe ich im Sieger Casino (www.casinosieger.com) den Support gebeten meine dort hinterlegte E-Mail Adresse <persönliche Information entfernt> zu aktualisieren, da ich auf diese seit längerer Zeit bereits keinen Zugriff mehr habe und teilte dort meine Aktuelle <persönliche Information entfernt> mit. Mir wurde gesagt, dass mein Anliegen an die zuständige Abteilung weitergeleitet- und meine Mailadresse so schnell wie möglich aktualisiert wird. Und seit dem ist nichts mehr passiert.

Sowohl mehrere Anfragen an den LiveChat als auch per E-Mail (inklusive einer Ausweiskopie als identitätsnachweis) werden stehts damit beantwortet, dass mein Anliegen der zuständigen Abteilung vorliegt und sich so schnell als möglich darum gekümmert wird.

Da ich im genannten Casino etwas Glück hatte beträgt mein Kontostand dort aktuell etwa 1400,- €, welche ich mir gerne auszahlen lassen möchte. Hierzu muss ich jedoch auf einen Link in einer Bestätigungsmail des Casinos klicken, was jedoch logischer Weise so nicht möglich ist.

Ich denke, innerhalb von inzwischen 11 Tagen sollte es möglich sein, eine E-Mail Adresse zu aktualisieren, zumal ich bereits, wie gesagt, mehrmals höflich beim Support nachgefragt habe!?

Die Nachrichten an das Casino/Support habe ich in 1:1 in PDF Dateien umgewandelt und beigefügt.

(Bitte hier nicht zu sehr auf mein Englisch achten, ist nicht meine Muttersprache ... :) )

Können Sie mir hier weiterhelfen?

Ich wäre Ihnen sehr dankbar.

Vorab sage ich vielen Dank und wünsche einen schönen Tag.

MfG

Thomas

Status unsolved Ungelöst
€1,400
Casino still didn't payout 3000 EUR since April

This is the second time I have filed this complaint.

After my first complaint 10 days ago about a payout of 5000Euro. On 02-04-24 I withdrawed 5000 Euro from the site Casino Sieger. After a few days, the payout was approved.

Then I was told that the payout would be done in installments. This was not the first time I had done a withdrawal on the site and I received all my withdrawals on my bank account but certainly not without any issues.

Every time I had done a withdrawal there was a lot of mailing and asking before I finally received my funds. Same case now.

10 days ago I received only 1 installment of 1000Euro. The strange thing is that the day after I filled in the complaint I finally received a second installment of 1000 Euro and a reply via email that there were issues with their payment department.

This is standard every time. In the beginning, they always declared that the payment was done by their payment department, and after many times asking and after I had to proof that I still not received it they then letting me now that there where issues and that they pay me out with weeks of delay.

So now after almost 2 months I still need to recieve 3 installments of 1000 Euro.

Now they even don't reply to my emails when I ask when these will be done.

How come a casino that receives 1000s and 1000s of euros/dollars a day is not able to pay out 5000 Euros properly?

Really hope you can help fix this problem.

Kristof

Status unsolved Ungelöst
€3,000