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Von Sandra S.
vor 9 Jahren
I tried to withdraw 2000€ this month and I received an email that the withdrawal was not approved and I should contact support. I did this and I was told that I cant withdraw because I havent deposited in 3 months. I tried to do a deposit then with Neteller and it was also denied. I was told Neteller was never acccepted for german players , which was a lie because I only used this method for depositing. I then asked where in the terms it states that I have to deposit after 3 months time in order to make a withdrawal. I was told its in 6.1. and more specifically here:

"All withdrawals from unverified players must be thoroughly checked as per our payout management procedures before being processed. When it becomes evident that a player never had the intention to carry out any betting activity with us, the player should be informed that funds will not be processed until his identity, age and place of residence is proven beyond doubt and/or a period of at least three months has elapsed from when the deposit was made."

I am not an unveriefied player. I got verified months ago and I did play a lot since then (500k of bets!) so that paragraph doesnt even address to me, but even if it did, it would say "not processed... until ... three months has elapsed from when the deposit was made"

I have tried to explain them that nowhere there it states what they say, but they claim they "have our terms and you have accepted them".
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Betrag €2000

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Dear @Sandrassss,

AskGamblers Complaints Team believe that we were pretty clear and eloquent in our stance on the matter referring to your denied payment. Since you confirmed the payment was finally received, we consider the case as successfully resolved and it is being officially closed now. As for your concerns regarding the fairness of particular casino and/or bonus term/s, please feel free to forward these in front of the relevant regulatory body which is the only authorized organization capable to influence somehow and/or force potential changes into these rules.
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I confirm that I received the withdrawal now after months of struggle. I want to emphasize that even now this complaint is NOT resolved because the complaint was about misinterpretation of own terms and I only got paid after I did what they asked even if they had no right to ask for that. I just gave in to the blackmailing because this seemed the only chance to get paid. It doesnt resolve the issue of the blackmailing itself!
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Dear Sandra,

I have to apologize in behalf of the Casino Sieger but we just realized there have been a slight misunderstanding in the internal communication in regards to your last payout wire.

The funds have been wired on 1st April but to your bank account.

We apologize again sincerely and ask you to check your bank account as those funds should have already reached you.

Kind regards,

Marie
Casino Sieger team
User name loyalty-level-2
So what is your excuse this time?
1. Why should the payment bounce from my bank when previous withdrawals always went through?
2. Why do you suddenly process to Neteller when until now you always claimed this was not possible?
3. I never saw a processed Neteller payment that did not reflect in my account immediately, so what is going on here now?

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Sieger Spielothek - Aktualisierung meiner E-Mail Adresse sehr verzögert, Auszahlung nicht möglich

Hallo zusammen,

am 25.04.2021 habe ich im Sieger Casino (www.casinosieger.com) den Support gebeten meine dort hinterlegte E-Mail Adresse <persönliche Information entfernt> zu aktualisieren, da ich auf diese seit längerer Zeit bereits keinen Zugriff mehr habe und teilte dort meine Aktuelle <persönliche Information entfernt> mit. Mir wurde gesagt, dass mein Anliegen an die zuständige Abteilung weitergeleitet- und meine Mailadresse so schnell wie möglich aktualisiert wird. Und seit dem ist nichts mehr passiert.

Sowohl mehrere Anfragen an den LiveChat als auch per E-Mail (inklusive einer Ausweiskopie als identitätsnachweis) werden stehts damit beantwortet, dass mein Anliegen der zuständigen Abteilung vorliegt und sich so schnell als möglich darum gekümmert wird.

Da ich im genannten Casino etwas Glück hatte beträgt mein Kontostand dort aktuell etwa 1400,- €, welche ich mir gerne auszahlen lassen möchte. Hierzu muss ich jedoch auf einen Link in einer Bestätigungsmail des Casinos klicken, was jedoch logischer Weise so nicht möglich ist.

Ich denke, innerhalb von inzwischen 11 Tagen sollte es möglich sein, eine E-Mail Adresse zu aktualisieren, zumal ich bereits, wie gesagt, mehrmals höflich beim Support nachgefragt habe!?

Die Nachrichten an das Casino/Support habe ich in 1:1 in PDF Dateien umgewandelt und beigefügt.

(Bitte hier nicht zu sehr auf mein Englisch achten, ist nicht meine Muttersprache ... :) )

Können Sie mir hier weiterhelfen?

Ich wäre Ihnen sehr dankbar.

Vorab sage ich vielen Dank und wünsche einen schönen Tag.

MfG

Thomas

Status unsolved Ungelöst
€1,400
Casino still didn't payout 3000 EUR since April

This is the second time I have filed this complaint.

After my first complaint 10 days ago about a payout of 5000Euro. On 02-04-24 I withdrawed 5000 Euro from the site Casino Sieger. After a few days, the payout was approved.

Then I was told that the payout would be done in installments. This was not the first time I had done a withdrawal on the site and I received all my withdrawals on my bank account but certainly not without any issues.

Every time I had done a withdrawal there was a lot of mailing and asking before I finally received my funds. Same case now.

10 days ago I received only 1 installment of 1000Euro. The strange thing is that the day after I filled in the complaint I finally received a second installment of 1000 Euro and a reply via email that there were issues with their payment department.

This is standard every time. In the beginning, they always declared that the payment was done by their payment department, and after many times asking and after I had to proof that I still not received it they then letting me now that there where issues and that they pay me out with weeks of delay.

So now after almost 2 months I still need to recieve 3 installments of 1000 Euro.

Now they even don't reply to my emails when I ask when these will be done.

How come a casino that receives 1000s and 1000s of euros/dollars a day is not able to pay out 5000 Euros properly?

Really hope you can help fix this problem.

Kristof

Status unsolved Ungelöst
€3,000