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Royal Panda Casino - Not following new UKGC LCCP requirements, refunded me partially


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Por Pabby01
há 7 anos
This complaint has 2 points. the first is that the casino out right lied to me about the refund i was getting and the second is that they did not follow new regulations that would have prevented me from gambling in the first place . Against my better Judgment on the 13th of May I signed up for an account with Royal Panda. I'm A compulsive gambler who is registered with GamStop and because of a typo in my name I was able to open an account with these guys. I deposisited and wagered £835. Afterwards I went to Royal Panda and explained my situation asking for a refund. They did they're own investigation into the matter and got back to me on Friday with an email that said this:


'Thank you for your patience.

We can confirm that the amount of your deposits has been refunded to your bank account.

We would like to thank you for your patience and understanding.

Should you have any further questions or issues we can assist you with, don't hesitate to let us know – we’re always happy to help.'


As stated the amount of my deposits was £835 and the email clearly states that I am being refunded the amount of my deposits, not a partial payment. Despite this I only received £410 and when I went to query them about the rest was told I was not getting it because there was mix matched details between what I joined the site with and what was on Gam Stop I.e a name typo and different email I had already been upfront about. This shows that they outright lied. the amount of my deposits had not being refunded to me and I was not made aware to expect anything less.


That brings me on to my 2nd point .During the time that their investigation was going on I came across new regulations set out by the UK gambling commission that had taken effect on the 7th of May( 6 days before I joined) . These clearly states that Someone's age and identity must be verified by the operator BEFORE they are even allowed to deposit. no more waiting 72 hours for any Online casino licensed by the UKGC. I was not asked for any documents to verify this information and as my name had a typo in it then it would have been impossible for these details to be verified in any other way. This clearly indicates that they were breaching the rules and my deposits should have been void and returned. Had they verified my identity and fixed the name ( which they did not) the likelihood is that it would have flagged me against the gam Stop database and the account would be shut down without any deposits having occurred. The Fact that they did nott means they had no right to accept any deposits from me in the first place wether I was self excluded or not. The situation would have been different had they verified me and still not caught the gamstop link but this is not the case. When confronted with this information in live chat the operator just didn't seem to understand what I was talking about. I feel that at the last minute this casino changed there mind about my refund and even when presented with evidence that they were meant to verify me prior to deposits , just played dumb.
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AskGamblers Complaints Team has been provided with enough information and evidence on behalf Royal Panda Casino management in regards of this complaint to confirm and justify the casino actions.

Based on the above, AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is now officially closed. In case of a disagreement with our decision we remind player that further assistance on this matter could be requested from the relevant regulatory body.

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Well once you provide me with evidence. I will drop my complaint. But I have asked for this evidence on several occasions and not been provided with it.

It is also a very stupid system you have that is able to verify someones identity despite a typo but still not match that confirmed identity to gam stop where that identity is also confirmed.

AGAIN you make no reference to your team lying about the amount of refund I was getting because thats okay apparently.

Unless you provide me the evidence your leaving me no choice but to take the matter to the gambling commision and let them determine if you acted accordingly. You've given me absolutley no reason
To trust what you say.

Thanks.
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Dear PABBY01,

Thank you for your ongoing patience while we were investigating the matter.

We’re really sorry, but as the details you’ve used while registering at Royal Panda were different to the details you’ve registered at Gamstop, your access hasn’t been blocked straight away. We see that there is a difference in your name and email address.

We’d like to confirm that despite the typo in your first name, we’ve successfully verified your identity. We’ve provided the Askgamblers team with evidence and explanation regarding that.

We’ve refunded part of your deposits as a sign of goodwill. We’re sorry, but we’re unable to issue any further refund. Please take a look at clauses 5.2 and 5.6 from our terms and conditions:

5.2: “(…) It is the player’s sole responsibility to ensure that the information provided is valid, complete and correct at all times. The player hereby decorates and warrants to Royal Panda that the information provided is valid, complete and correct (…).”

5.6: “When creating an account (registering) at Royal Panda, the player is obliged to give a valid name, surname, address, contact email and personal telephone number. Registering an account with false information is prohibited. Royal Panda will have the right to close member accounts created with false information at its sole discretion.”

We believe that we’ve acted in accordance with our terms and conditions and we’ve addressed all your questions.

Kind regards,

Royal Panda
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Dear PABBY01,

We'd like to confirm that this matter is still being discussed internally with Askgamblers.

We thank you for your ongoing patience and understanding. Please also let us apologize for any inconvenience caused.

Kind regards,

Royal Panda

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Please assist me with this ongoing withdrawal problem that is now approaching week 19.

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  • Francesca (Royal Panda)
  • 3/02/2022, 3:59 GMT+1

Dear Lionale,

I trust this email find you well and thank you for contacting Royal Panda Support.

Kindly be advised that we have been in contact with your provider and we can confirm that the withdrawal of NZD 3,100.30 has landed on your provider's account with reference: ​

ARN XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

If you encounter any questions, you can be able to check with your bank/provider by using the above as a reference.

Thank you for your kind patience in this matter and I hope the above is useful.

Should you have any other questions please feel free to contact us.

We are available through live chat and e-mail. Myself or another agent will be more than happy to help!

Have a great day!

Best regards,

Francesca

Royal Panda, Customer Support

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