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Geographical misunderstanding led to unfair confiscation


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Por vegas123
hace 8 años
When I Registered with Royal Vegas, I selected my country as the Falkland Islands which is where I have lived for the past 8 years. (The UK is not an option). I deposited a total of £330 and after a while withdrew £741.40. I was surprised to find that all my money had been "confiscated" because gambling is not allowed in the UK (8000 miles away). I obviously queried this and after a while received an email from Royal Vegas which explained that my ISP, although based in the Falkland Islands routes through the UK. All our internet traffic is via a satellite to the UK.

The reply from the support staff included this statement:
Your IP is routing through to a UK based company. The cards that you use are also from a UK based company. However, I do see that you have registered your account in the Falklands Island where gambling is possible. Our Player security department have requested the following to have your withdrawal released and your account re-opened:

I forwarded proof that I was resident in the Falkland Islands, which was accepted, and received an email shortly afterwards to inform me that a payment had been made.

As my account was blocked I had to ask the "Live chat" what the withdraw was and was informed that a payment of £330 (The amount staked) had been made and that the rest had been confiscated because the company did not "support my region".

I tried to explain that I was not in the UK, and that The Falkland Islands was accepted as a permissible region; all to no avail.

Royal Vegas' T&Cs state:
1.2.1. You warrant and represent, and we enter into this Agreement on the basis of such representations and warranties, all of which are material at the time of your entering into this Agreement and throughout the currency hereof, that you:

1.2.1.1. are legally able to participate in the Casino within Your Jurisdiction;

I have legally fulfilled my side of the T&Cs as the Falkland Islands are legally able to participate as stated in the reply I received from Royal Vegas and incidentally is still an option if you try to register.

I therefore dispute the claim from Royal Vegas that I breached these T&Cs and wish for my winnings to be paid. I wonder if I had lost everything and then tried the same argument to retrieve my losses they would have paid?

I consequently believe that I am owed $410.70 by Royal Vegas after fully complying with their requirements.
Casino en conflicto Royal Vegas Casino
Cantidad £410.7

Discusión

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Based on submitter's last post AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is officially closed now.

Thank you all for your cooperation.

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Thank you Gabriela for the repayment. I have noted your comments but still disagree about the ability to gamble here. The UK Gambling Act 2005 refers in Para 360 to the extent of the act and states that some provisions apply to England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland and the rest apply to England, Wales and Scotland only. I therefore interpret that as the Act does not apply to anywhere outside UK territorial waters.

However the matter has now been resolved so I will close the complaint.

Thank you to all staff as Askgamblers who have been very helpful.

Vegas123
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Dear @vegas123,

Please confirm if the issue has been resolved. Keep in mind that in case you fail to respond within the given time frame we will consider your issue as resolved and your complaint will be closed accordingly.

Thank you for your cooperation.

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Hi Vegas123 and AskGamblers,

After further investigation, it has been decided that the remaining 271.70 be put back into your card. This was the outstanding balance on the account after we returned your deposits back to your card.

You should recieve your funds within the next 3 - 5 working days.

The Falklands Islands have been removed from the registration page and please note that gaming in that region is prohibited.

Thanking you kindly and hoping that you have a great day further.

Kind Regards,
Gabriela

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Cantidad promedio $2,713
Duración media de quejas 9 días
Tiempo de respuesta promedio 2 días
Casino refuse to pay 3900 euro
I'm writing to seek assistance regarding an issue I encountered with Royal Vegas Online Casino. Recently, I received a notification that my account (username: Foxylady7171) has been closed indefinitely, and any funds remaining in the account have been confiscated without the possibility of refunds.

I was both surprised and disappointed by this action. I have deposited €25,000 into my account and only managed to withdraw €3,900, which has not been paid out to me.

As a resident of the European Union, I am aware of the protections provided under EU consumer protection laws, which ensure fairness and transparency in commercial transactions, including online gambling services.

Given these circumstances, I respectfully request that Royal Vegas Casino comply with these consumer protection laws and facilitate the return of any deposits I have made to my account. I believe that as a consumer, I am entitled to a fair resolution under these regulations.

I would appreciate guidance on how to proceed with reclaiming my deposits, as mandated by EU consumer protection laws. Additionally, I seek clarification on the specific grounds for my account closure and the confiscation of funds, as outlined in section 10.17 of the casino’s terms and conditions.

I trust that Royal Vegas Casino values its commitment to responsible gaming and upholding legal and regulatory standards. Therefore, I expect a prompt and transparent response to my request.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Status unsolved No resuelta
€3,900
Delayed payment turned to unjustified Self Exclusion

Delayed Payment - Turned - Unjustified “Self Exclusion” / Deleted Account -

I have been waiting well over 2 weeks (since February 16-2022) with a “Withdrawl Pending” with RoyalVegasCasino, for $11,000. (Typically withdrawals are said to take 24-48 hours) I have been in contact with the “Live Support” team almost daily looking for updates on the situation. Only to respond with “yes indeed, my Withdrawl does seem to be taking longer than usual”. That it is under review with the “Operations Team”. And that I should receive an email from operations with an explanation. Same story, every time I speak with “Live Support”. Never to receive an email or educational update.

Note:

-this is not my first withdrawal from RoyalVegasCasino; (identity verification is approved and current, deposit(s) made using my personal RBC visa & debit, played and won on multiple games)

I continue playing and depositing money with royalvegascasino. Now it’s March 04-2022. I withdraw $1000. (First since the $11,000.). Threw out the night I pull money from it and keep playing. (Now down to about $400 in my new withdrawal). Then Hours later I try to sign into my account. I can’t get in. Contact support. They say I “Self Excluded” myself from the account.

At no time did I say, implement and mention that gambling was, is or could be a problem in my life. Not in any way. I have taken screen shots of every conversation I have ever had with RoyalVegasCasino and can guarantee this. In order for this to happen RoyalVegasCasino would have to see from my account username: that I verified myself to RoyalVegasCasino and make any such comments. And if I did. I asked them to Please produce this transcript. Which they could not do. Only thing “Live Chat” said they could do is forward my concerns to the “Operations Team” for review.

I just find it “ironic” how over the past couple days I have been putting thousands of dollars into my verified account and RoyalVegasCasino had no issue taking this money, but as soon as I put money into “Withdrawl”, Hours later I am locked out of my account. Just… “ironic”.

I am beyond upset and frustrated with my experience with “RoyalVegasCasino”. For a withdrawal to be pending with RoyalVegasCasino since February 16-2022 for $11,000 with no explanation why (what’s going on, what I can improve to aid this in never happening again) nothing. But at no time did I say, implement or comment that gambling is an issue in my life. My only issue is, and have expressed this greatly, that I am frustrated, flabbergasted and upset with the lack of transparency and length of my pending withdrawal. Throughout this frustrating experience, I have always been very careful of my comments and wording so nothing could be used against me to enable them to block/delete my account and put myself in this situation.

Moving forward. What’s next. Can you tell me what happens with my $11,000 withdrawal from February 16,2022. Am I still entitled to this or because of this “ self inclusion” RoyalVegasCasino stated I did, does this now null and void withdrawal?!

And secondly, once they look into my inquiry and see that I am correct and no, it was not me whom “self-excluded” myself / made comments about the IIl effects of gambling in my life… what happens to this account. With approximately $400 dollars in my withdrawal as of March 03-04/2022. Will I have access to both the account and funds.


I appreciate your time in looking into and hope you can aid and educated me in this siguation I find myself in. If I am not going too see my funds of $11,000 from Feb16-2022, gain access to my account and access to the approximate $400 that was in my withdrawl, how does one in my siguation move forward. I have literally took a screen shot of every conversation I have ever had with my online gambling dealings / websites for such situation. (The “Live Chats” are all very generic conversations; as it’s myself explaining the situation in full, then myself verifying my identity / answering a security question to them, so they can look into my account and then hearing the same story of zero changes, zero information, nothing new to report.

Next step would be what?!? Contact the “Malta gambling authority” and/or “Kahnawake Gaming Commission”?!? Appeal this decision!?, I assume with such accusations RoyalVegasCasino would have proof and grounds so this would have to be produced?! It’s not a just little bit of money we are talking about, so are lawyers the only way I am going to get any answers?! I’m not sure. I don’t want it to go anywhere close to this nor deal with this ludicrous situation anymore than what I have, and I hope no one else does. I just can’t continue the waiting game anymore. Because I have waited and had zero educational communication, zero transparency, and it keeps getting worse. I am just hoping this whole situation can positively rectified and move forward, putting this whole experience behind me.

Thank-you in advance for your time.


Sincerely,

Unsatisfied RoyalVegasCasino user.

Status unsolved No resuelta
$11,400
Wont pay and keep making excuses

So about 3 weeks ago I deposited €15 on Royal Vegas Casino. I couldn’t find the Evolution lobby. The live chat operator just kept asking for information about me and then would go silent for about 10 minutes. So I said “if it’s this hard to find the Evolution lobby I should probably just close the account.”


Then the operator returned and said “Okay you’re accounted closed. Anything else.”

I said I never requested to have my account closed.

That was the beginning of a struggle that has been going on for a month just to try to get back the money I deposited and never got to play with. I believe this may be something they do often. They take small amounts, thinking that the customer might just give up. But I’ve invested so much time into trying to get back the money that I might as well keep trying.

So once a week I go on the website and open the live chat. The amount of different things they have told me to try to refrain from paying me is incredible. Every week when I go on the live chat they at first pretend they have no information on me even after I supply all my details. When I tell them I am opening an close to opening a complaint on AskGamblers they magically tell me “Don’t worry your case has been escalated.”

Another few days go by. “Your case has been re-escalated”. Another few days go by. “We need to 2 forms of ID, proof of funds, picture of debit card used, utility bill and I forget what else.” I supplied all this. They said “The operations team will be in touch.” Another few days go by. They tell me they have no record of receiving my verification documents. I resubmit them.

A week later they tell me they cannot process my refund because they have a withdraw minimum of €50. I searched all over their site and read their terms of conditions twice and I could not see anywhere that it says that the minimum withdrawal is €50. And since they closed my account, and since I had less than €50 on there, they just get to keep my money. When I said today that I was opening a case on AskGamblers they said they will re-escalate my case again. I said that they said they would re-escalate the case again.

I have no other option at this point. In another month’s time they will still be telling me the same things. From reading through their complaints page and their other reviews and complaints on the internet I can see that they have a terrible reputation for not paying out.

Even if they still refuse to give me my money, hopefully this at least will raise some awareness about Royal Vegas Casino. It’s disgraceful, really.

Status unsolved No resuelta
€15