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Von Ugur A.
vor 4 Jahren

Hello there, I'm player of CasinoExtra. They use Curacao eGaming license company and I trust it. I deposited 300 euro and I lost and I redeposited 350+400+400 euro too. My balance up to 15500 Euro. I tried withdraw my winnings, they wants some documents from me.

I uploaded it on upload page. But they didn't approve it.

And they blocked my account after this.

I contact with them on live chat, they didn't give any information. Just say "we will inform u in email asap."

Please help me.

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Betrag €15500

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Dear all,

Following a careful review of valid information and proof presented by Casino Extra management, the AskGamblers Complaint Team has reasonable grounds to suspect that the player might have been involved in committing potential fraudulent activities.

The AskGamblers Complaint Team maintains zero tolerance towards players trying to abuse our complaint service and not using it in a good faith. Therefore, we made the decision to reject this complaint and to impose a permanent ban on the player to use our services from now on.

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Dear all,

This complaint has been reopened as per Casino Extra request and the AskGamblers Complaint Team would like to give it one more try and help both parties involved into the dispute reach a satisfactory resolution.

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Dear AskGamblers, that's cool story is only LIE. I already send my conversation with support team and they blocked my account without any reason. I think their Security and Fraud team starting create like this scenarios when they dont have jobs. I do not accept the accusations. I put 1.050 euro and with winnings do 15.500 finally i try to withdraw and no success. All of story this, i'm ready to send all of my legal and local documents also i can do conversation on Skype at this time CasinoExtra team are doing wrong.

I'm waiting my payment or i will report this issue or Licensing Company.
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Dear Casino Extra,

The AskGamblers Complaint Team is kindly asking you to provide a detailed explanation of the issue along with all the relevant facts and evidence that could support your accusations towards the player. Please make sure to state all the relevant casino and/or promotional terms that you believe have been breached by the player, if any. Please send required information to suppor­t@a­skg­amb­ler­s.com directly.

Please note that according to the AGCCS Terms, we consider all the information presented during the course of our complaint process confidential and as such it will not be shared with third parties.

Please be in aware that in case you fail to respond and/or provide requested information within the given timeframe, the complaint will be closed as unresolved.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

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Durchschn. Betrag $1,919
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Dispute related to 9000 euro missing

On the 13th of March I won 39.297€ with Casino extra. They were processing my withdrawals to a maximum of 4000€ per week. It had to be 2000€ for each withdrawal. They said on chat 1k per withdrawal at the start but changed it to 2k.

I went on the Casino chat on the 5th of June as payments had suddenly stopped. At this point i had 9297€ outstanding. 297€ was my Casino balance and 9k was showing as processed in my Casino lobby. I was told the amounts were only processed today and to expect payment to my Eth Wallet within a few days. I then withdrawn the 297€ balance in my Casino account on this day.

I again went on chat on the 12th of June as I had not received any payments from the Casino for a week. I should have had another 4000€ paid by there weekly limits. I was told on chat that 2000€ would be paid tomorrow being the 13th. I asked why nothing was paid last week and they could not answer.

On the 13th of June I received 297€ from Casino extra which was my last withdrawal. This raised alarm bells to me as my last withdrawal was paid before the other 9k. I emailed the Casino to inform them that 9k is missing and they replied that the withdrawals have been processed in full. I replied asking them to send me the transaction history, which they did on the 19th of June. I checked these and they matched exactly what I had received and the time stamps which was a total of 30,297€. I replied that this is correct, exactly what I have received and that there is 9000€ missing. I received a reply that I must have withdrawn to a different crypto wallet as all payments are processed there end and they consider this case closed. I have only ever withdrawn to the same crypto wallet being Eth. I asked to send evidence of the payments they say they sent which I have not received.

On the 23rd June the Casino emailed me a list of 5 transactions. 4 x 2k and 1x 1k. 2 of the transactions were to a Bitcoin address and the other 3 were other wallet addresses. ( all different) Non of which belong to me. I investigated this through block chair and found it very strange that these 5 payments were the only transactions that did not match the time stamps of the Casino lobby like all the payments I actually received did. I notified the Casino of this and asked to investigate further. The reply was :

we want to emphasize that it is not within our responsibility to determine where the withdrawals were requested or where the funds were sent. As such, we consider this case closed.

I have never withdrawn to any other wallet address`s and the 9k missing that I won, the history does not even match my Casino lobby to when it was paid to a wallet address. This is not an error from my end.

Below is a screenshot of what was received, which Casino extra also originally sent me as the transaction history which i pointed out 9k Is missing.


24-Mar-2023 11:51 1.22340155 € 2,052.13

26-Mar-2023 10:00 0.60289559 € 975.11

27-Mar-2023 11:55 0.60734688 € 1,000.92

1-Apr-2023 07:57 0.59230881 € 992.79

1-Apr-2023 07:57 0.59230881 € 992.79

3-Apr-2023 15:09 0.60435092 € 1,004.13

3-Apr-2023 15:09 0.60428357 € 1,004.02

8-Apr-2023 09:07 0.58079699 € 985.55

8-Apr-2023 09:08 0.58079699 € 985.55

11-Apr-2023 11:03 0.56731525 € 996.02

16-Apr-2023 08:16 1.04327081 € 1,967.55

14:21 0.54977910 € 962.77

11:23

23-Apr-2023 09:13 0.58409379 € 986.78

26-Apr-2023 11:03 1.14589285 € 1,948.70

4-May-2023 11:49 1.15626661 € 1,988.77

12-May-2023 12:10 1.22817751 € 2,023.35

18-May-2023 10:15 1.18074636 € 1,984.21

19-May-2023 12:27 1.18696976 € 1,983.54

25-May-2023 13:09 1.18361604 € 1,981.21

27-May-2023 08:37 1.16843807 € 1,991.53

(Jun-09-2023 12:55:35 PM +UTC) 297€0x409c94ed01b5e29ba7ce1d9fa16fa748ed6c38657f4b4c179410d61979c5a526


Received 30,297€

Amount won 39,297€

Missing 5 payouts of 4X2k and 1X1k- 9k missing in payouts total


0x409c94ed01b5e29ba7ce1d9fa16fa748ed6c38657f4b4c179410d61979c5a526- Received 296 Dollars 09/6

0x3db39d1fca00396e31aba69989567652b1a4d1078b516d608ae7bad51c7c7835- Received 2000 27/5

0x71aa0c5d4f333dbc54f7e9bb6c1f9a1a8354d4800c861bd721b56cc23a4987ad- Received 2000 25/5

0xf0cea4bb8908605c770d1fedbd216a41f70eed354ade89c4e871cbf41734722d Received 2000 19/5

0xdbf404fa968a9f42f6c7de0683a96e06a1ba36e9208274586d32302f2062730a- Received 2000 18/5

0x7c4e6357a9355c1b85ec8bc590dd8375ee9d45f870675d6a43145bede7038d29- Received 2000 12/5

0xbd6c7db17990aabccab91329cf5f6ebf15b946e78e0e93258c9d06866ffa5d2c- Received 2000 4/5

0xe6dda6dfd13d5c20fa7a9e2488f42a18dbd916ba0d329c8064d8b120e0b73cfa- Received 2000 26/4

0xe120b63a98aa91362ed676770242735bbfab57c47a3d2f9e36640aba8fd16d76- Received 1000 23/4

0xf45b5adaaad50ae7afddf646791c668b2c76fc5089a715f1bc9c3e9abdd3634c- Received 2000 18/4

0x8c776a34ca6fd85db570b0755073e3b0c6e6694824e3c3536fbd9c862f8ec9be- Received 2000 16/4

0x9258bef24c8d225cf63dfecb1874a8f1e7cc50774531cfe4240efae34346c31c- Received 1000 11/4

0xc1236a3a24a02ce5d992984468e4ee6380223b4c1472ef4cc1c23c6cd971eb8a- Received 1000 8/4

0xdefe3dd324eb8bd89294fe409ceb253ac38c8c706e07bffdcfc1c15d799c1d06- Received 1000 8/4

0xa24890b1f508359e587952382c24ba0446cf1b82fd7a6e58da396497608e3248- Received 1000 3/4

0x6ec1dccbd4b78256d7fee7f25b3412d8f346122415dcd0704a4c89cdd45b524b- Received 1000 3/4

0x6d5d00483bdd83a3fcfaa89ec28cc895778dc38c1b8371e82f8e1ec6521dd901- Received 1000 01/4

0x61534b9b07a32413d88016dbc3a6889b1e171f0f78cc55b3d12c78f862dd4220- Received 1000 01/4

0xf0e6b04de73a58d049749ac02d81175ce94bee8b514d69200c7df6d8e078d4ba- Received 1000 27/3

0x7bd28acb0cb677db0f5de7162a87bc08cfac46ebb4e3e927e6e7b33cfb576307- Received 1000 26/03

0xf1892ee8fed92ae11d2851abd98a0121fa9ff116e8618d52853045f934abbbc9- Received 2000 24/3


Below is Casino extra´s response.


After careful investigation, we have located the missing funds amounting to 9k and have determined where they were sent. We would like to advise you to check the following Crypto addresses for the transactions:



1. TXID: d750bc56dae5f08ffe67886accee0cf67a4a72615bb4d32465c863ceb54a470a Address: bc1q2nyjgrn7n0kdx2v2fykdnefw939zctyrfmkj6e - 2k Jun 3, 2023 10:02 AMUTC

2. TXID: c4f5ef9d67c58005712fa59a3eb28018dd91e93ad4ff176eb45e2e9a0bb381f8 Address: bc1q2nyjgrn7n0kdx2v2fykdnefw939zctyrfmkj6e - 2k Jun 1, 2023 2:47 PMUTC

3. TXID: 0x594f5af259ac7e5a3aa22ba56ae175bbace7583f1420f42d7af3fcd9a6e95689 Address: 0xcf6eDa405846c04BfC6bFEe8c6d0E1262F184Ced - 2k May 10, 2023 2:26 PMUTC

4. TXID: 7644970acc0f476184971c7feb8d76783ed7218518a6db5208b8f1d251a91958 Address: 3KfKsgw83fuwyjcmcuGXCdkwPPadxFVBfM - 2kMay 3, 2023 11:43 AMUTC





Status solved Gelöst
€9,000
The deposit limit does not work correctly

Hello there.

So my issue is that the set deposit limit (monthly 10€) has not been working and i've been able to deposit many times over the set limit. Which is not okay obviously. If i've chosen to set my deposit limit as 10€ per month (Limit set on 06/3/2021 confirmed by live support). Then i should not be able to deposit more than 10€ per month, am I correct?

Now the support as I tried to contact them first place, told me that in order to responsible gambling tools work, i have to also set daily and weekly limits. Now i don't honestly see this is how it should go. As i have history of various casinos and experience, i know that if i've wanted to add an monthly deposit limit. ie 20€, after that set, i've not been able to deposit more than 20€ per month. or that i've must been have added also Daily and Weekly limits in order to Monthly limit work. Also their T&C on Resp Gambling, doesn't state of above that daily and weekly limits must be activated also in order to monthly limit work.

I request for the additional deposits above my deposit limit to be refunded (After the deposits made from 06/3/2021 -> 08/03/2021 as the limit was set on that day 06/03)

Also i would appreciate big time, if they could also fix this issue. It is serious issue as its related to responsible gambling and to these kind on incidents not happen in future.

I also wanna add that they do not send email confirmations of when you add deposit limit. So i asked from live support the date it was set on. Transcript as evidence included.

Status solved Gelöst
€130