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Withdrawal not processed, casino claims that the money was reversed without any evidence


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Von Danilo244
vor 6 Jahren
Dear AskGamblers,


Betway casino keeps claiming that my withdrawal in the amount of 27,025 EUR had been reversed and played down; thus the withdrawal as such no longer exists and can not be processed.

It all started after I noticed that a previous day's withdrawal in the aforementioned amount has not been processed. I contacted the live support and sent a few emails; the response was that they would escalate the matter further but from what they saw that the money had been played out.

I was asked to submit screenshot of my play check and other supporting documents, what I did. Documents (also attached here) suggest that in the given time they refer to there was no activity on account. Additionally, I included an activity log from my device and a screenshot of the withdrawal request which was taken after the money was allegedly played out.

What concerns me most is that Betway could not agree on the exact time when the withdrawal was reversed, stating nonsense about time zones in Germany compared to CET (see attachment). Even more suspicious was that they did not get back to me for 3 days but in the meantime, they decided to close my account preventing me from accessing that particular but also other play logs and transaction history. That happened after I received a phone call (attachment) from their Gaming department when they ask me if I need that money. Obviously I said yes and that was a single justification to permanently close my account, despite the fact that I have been a customer for many years with a considerably high transaction history stake.

Finally, they informed me that:
''We have escalated the matter to our technical department and they can confirm that you have reversed the amount. Please find the following game history:

2019-10-03 14:49:35.883 - You win EUR 2,700.00
2019-10-03 14:50:19.540 - Withdrawal EUR -27,025.00
2019-10-03 22:02:11.680 - Reversed EUR 27,025.000
2019-10-03 22:02:48.840 - Started to playing Roulette

2019-10-03 22:17:48.317 - You have played out the complete balance of funds.

Therefore we can confirm that the reversal went back to your account and that you have played out the funds.''
Despite the fact that I was neither logged in during that time nor could possibly perform such actions. From their attitude and activities with respect to this case, I clearly see a tendency to avoid facts and to deprive me of the money I won.
Unseriöses Casino Betway Casino
Betrag €27025

Diskussion

User name

Dear all,

Following a careful review and consideration of all the information and details presented by the parties during the complaint process, the AskGamblers Complaint Team reached the conclusion that Betway Casino management acted in accordance with their Terms and Conditions.

Based on the abovementioned information, the AskGamblers Complaint Team considers this case resolved and it is now officially closed. While we understand this might not be the outcome expected by the complainant, we would like to remind you that, in case of a disagreement with our decision, further assistance on the matter could be requested additionally from the relevant regulatory body and/or appointed ADR entity.

User name
Hi there,

Please see below for our findings from our investigation.

04th of October 2019
- You sent in a query about your withdrawal of € 27 025.
- You contacted us via our Live chat facility, you were informed the withdrawal of €27 025 was reversed back into your Betway account. You stated you did not reverse the funds and we then requested screenshots of the withdrawal for further review.
- You sent in screenshots of your game play history.
05th of October 2019
- We received further screen shots of a pending withdrawal in the submitted stage that you sent in.
- We advised of the withdrawals on the 02nd - 03rd of October 2019 that was reversed back into your Betway account.
o You made a withdrawal of € 22 800 at 23:35 pm (UTC) on the 02/10/2019. This amount was reversed at 14:40 pm (UTC) on the 03/10/2019.
o There was a second withdrawal of € 27 025 on the 03/10/2019 at 14:50 (UTC), this was reversed on the 03/10/2019 at 22:02 pm (UTC).
- Our responsible gambling team closed your account as they wanted to make contact with you.
06th – 7th of October 2019
- You followed up on the closed account via chat and requested a call back from the responsible gambling team.
- There was a back and forth as the RG team was not able to contact you with the number provided as it was invalid, you provided an alternate contact number.
- A successful call was made at 15:03 pm on the 07th of October, as a result of what was discussed on the call a decision was made to exclude the account.
08th October 2019
- We escalated the query of the reversed withdrawal to our gaming provider MGS for further investigation.
09th of October 2019
- We received feedback from MGS stating the funds were reversed and you had used the funds on Roulette.
- You were not satisfied with the feedback and a formal complaint was logged via email.
10th of October 2019
- Our complaints team responded to you, after further investigation they confirmed the withdrawal was reversed to your Betway account and played out on Roulette.
- You were not happy with the outcome and this was escalated to the dispute stage of our complaints process.
14th of October 2019
- We then responded to you, the dispute was escalated and you were advised you should receive feedback before or by the 23rd of October 2019.
15th of October 2019
- The dispute review had been completed and the feedback was provided to you. It was confirmed there were no irregularities in the your game play, stating that the funds were reversed and you used this on roulette.
21st of October 2019
- We received email confirmation from eCOGRA (ADR) that you had escalated the complaint to them and as a result of this we were requested to send all correspondence and findings for further investigation.
04th November 2019
- By this time eCOGRA advised they had received all our findings from the complaints department and that it could take up to 90 days to complete the review.
12th of November 2019
- We received email confirmation from eCOGRA and the case was settled in favor of Betway. It was found the funds were reversed back into your Betway account and we followed our due diligence by excluding the account on the basis of responsible gambling.

Due to the internal and external complaints process being exhausted, we have no further action on this complaint and see it as resolved.

Regards,

The Betway Team
User name

Dear all,

Kindly be notified that this complaint is being reopened following the declared willingness on behalf of Betway Casino management to do everything within their power to resolve their outstanding AGCCS cases. The AskGamblers Complaint Team will gladly assist by giving any of these old cases an additional chance for a successful resolution.

User name loyalty-level-2
That is not true. 10 days ago I received a message that they are longer not dealing with the case.

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Betway purposely delaying withdrawal
So I have been waiting since 24th jan for my withdrawl to be processed and yet still have no recieved my funds.

The amount is £20,668.52

I have been sent around in circles being told one thing than another.

I sent documents and was told i was successfully verified.
But the withdrawl was still delayed.

An agent then was really helpful and requested a timeframe seems it was already overdue.

I was then sent a link to yet again verify. Which did not work.

I waited days for another link which worked and I did It right away.

Now Im back to sqaure one of being told to wait which I do then told to wait longer again.

Now today my account has been locked. So I asked this morning why and was told although its not yet being reviewed it can be closed during review...
So which is it I ask?

Though the next agent then told me it was locked due to concerns on chat which is absurd.

The only thing I can possibly feel that is being excused as a reason for concern is that I agreed with agents who said it is frustrating and said it is causing me stress, which it would any normal person being messed around with inconsistent information.

No consumer is happy about funds being withheld for no valid reason.

The agent then closed the chat on me which I think is disgustingly rude.

Under the Gambling Commission rules and the Consumer Rights Act 2015, players have the right to withdraw deposited funds and winnings at any time without unreasonable delay or restriction.

I would most certainly say this has been unreasonable. I sent all my documents for verification right away and its been delayed as much as possible, using any reason they can come up with.

I have all chats screenshotted but haven't uploaded due to the large amount.
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£20,669
Not pay and live chat does not exist
I am writing to formally lodge a complaint against Betway regarding a persistent failure to process my withdrawal request and the total absence of legitimate customer support. As a registered user, I have followed all established protocols for fund withdrawal, yet the platform has failed to uphold its contractual obligations and regulatory standards.

1. Failure to Process Payments
I have a significant balance in my account that I have attempted to withdraw. Despite my account being fully verified and having met all necessary wagering requirements, the payment remains "pending" or has been cancelled without a valid explanation. This constitutes a direct violation of the terms and conditions regarding the timely disbursement of player funds. It is deeply concerning that a platform of this scale is withholding legitimate winnings from its users.

2. Non-Existent Live Chat Support
Betway advertises a Live Chat feature as a primary means of resolving urgent issues. However, after numerous attempts to access this service, I have found it to be completely non-functional. The link either leads to a dead page or places me in an infinite loop within the "Help" section. A gambling operator must provide real-time assistance, especially when financial transactions are involved. The fact that the Live Chat is "invisible" or perpetually unavailable is deceptive and prevents players from seeking immediate help.

3. Automated Email Responses (Bot Interference)
Furthermore, I have attempted to resolve this through their official contact emails. Every communication I have sent has been met with a generic, automated response generated by a bot. These replies do not address my specific concerns and offer no path to speak with a human representative. This "wall of automation" is a tactic used to frustrate users and avoid accountability. There is a total lack of transparency and professional oversight in their communication department.
PD: I used ia because dont speak inglish thenkiu for you help
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