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Von Dooberdog
vor 2 Jahren

Hi, I had a Gold VIP status with WS and under the terms and conditions of their new VIP program set up last fall, now you have to spend X number of dollars and made X number of bets by a certain date in order to retain that status.

It says the higher the status, you receive faster payouts, more exclusive benefits from your VIP manager, more access to tournaments, etc. I looked at my status and how much I needed to spend and what amount in bets I needed to surpass in order to keep my Gold status. 6 weeks ago, it looked like mission impossible.

But by the time the date was up (end of March), I had done it, I believe I had to spend $9000 and make 120000 in bets. I even messaged my VIP manager and said "I have good news. I met the requirements and maintained my Gold status." She congratulated me and seemed genuinely happy. Later that night I happened to notice that was status read "regular player" and indicated I was working my way up to bronze status. I couldn't believe my eyes. I knew I had met the requirements, but unfortunately my past betting numbers were gone.

I didn't have the proof in front of me. Support staff said I lost Gold because I didn't met the betting requirement. I knew I did, but even if I didn't, why go back to regular player? Why not go down a step to silver? It made no sense to me. I was very upset. I emailed support, and my VIP manager. It was two days before I received a reply from support saying I lost my Gold VIP status because I didn't make enough bets. I DID spent the required amount of money, rhey assured me. I never did hear from the VIP manager I had for 7 months or more.

All of a sudden a new VIP manager was assigned to me. She said I had bronze status now. She too said I didn't make the required number of bets, but again I knew I did as I had monitored it for months. I watched everyday as I moved up to the requirement and then surpassed it many days before the deadline. I should have taken a screenshot.

The new VIP manager has given me some free spins and two $45 cash bonuses since this happened late last week. She is doing her best to keep me happy and I'm being more than thankful and gracious to her. But I want WS to show me documented proof of all of the bets I made since the new VIP program started. I want them to show me where I didn't make the requirement in bets. And, I want to know why I went back to "regular player" status, but when I became very upset, I was told I was the lowest VIP bronze. To add insult to injury, they moved me down three steps, then told me that I shouldn't worry because I would get back to Gold in no time. No I won't. It cost be about $60,000 to get and maintain Gold. I'm not putting that money back into that casino. I can't afford to even if I wanted to. But I would have happily been a loyal player with the gold status. I've spent about $900 to $1000 in 9 days as a regular player/bronze. I haven't won a dime. If I deposit $50, for instance, and put it at a low bet of .40 cents (that's the bet I notice is most likely to pay out) I haven't won anything worth a withdrawal in my eyes.

Anyway, that's how it is with that casino. It will payout for a few days and go cold for months. There's a definite pattern there. I suppose it's the same at all casinos.Can you help me get the information I need? I'll attached what info I do have access to

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Dear all,

As apparent from the submitter's latest post, the AskGamblers Complaint Team is pleased to announce the case has been resolved and closed.

We thank both parties for their assistance during the complaint process.

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Thank you for your response and the personal reply via email. I do understand more now about the structure of the VIP program, but I maintain that it is confusing and I was easily fooled by it. I appreciate the extent you went through with multiple replies to my questions, but I hope you take into what I said about being less convoluted in the description of the entire VIP program for everyone. Thank you
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Dear DOOBERDOG,

Thank you for bringing to our attention your concern regarding your VIP status. We apologize for any incorrect information you may have received in communication with your personal account manager.

Currently, your status is Bronze for the ongoing quarter. Please feel free to monitor your progress on our VIP club page.

Furthermore, in light of the recent miscommunication, we would certainly like to make it up to you by extending the exclusive VIP Gold user deposit insurance terms until the end of this quarter for your account. Rest assured, new and improved deposit insurance terms are now secured under your account, ready for use.

As a Bronze VIP player, you can be sure to continue receiving VIP assistance from a personalized assistant, along with other benefits available to Bronze VIP players, such as special events, promotions, birthday gifts, and increased payout limits.

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Auszahlung von 769 Euro einbehalten und Konto ohne Grund gesperrt
Ich reiche eine Beschwerde ein bezüglich einer Auszahlung in Höhe von 769 €, die von mir bereits angefordert wurde, aber nicht ausgezahlt wurde, sowie der anschließenden dauerhaften Sperrung meines Kontos.

Ich bin seit längerer Zeit ein vollständig verifizierter VIP Kunde auf dieser Plattform und habe insgesamt einen mittleren fünfstelligen Betrag eingezahlt. Über die Zeit habe ich die Plattform ganz normal genutzt – ich habe sowohl verloren als auch gewonnen. Auch zuletzt habe ich wieder mehrere hundert Euro verloren, wie es bei normalem Spielverhalten üblich ist.

Die 769 € stammen aus einer aktuellen Einzahlung von 250 € und wurden durch ganz normales Spielen mit Echtgeld erzielt. Es war kein Bonus aktiv.

Was ich jedoch sehr problematisch finde:

Nachdem ich die Auszahlung beantragt habe, wurde mein Konto plötzlich gesperrt. Als Begründung wurde lediglich pauschal auf einen „Verstoß gegen die AGB“ verwiesen – ohne zu erklären, was genau ich angeblich falsch gemacht habe. Es wurden keinerlei Details oder Beweise genannt.

Gleichzeitig gilt:
• Meine Auszahlung von 769 € wurde einbehalten
• Es wurde kein konkreter Grund genannt
• Es wurden keine Beweise vorgelegt
• Der Support verweigert jede sinnvolle Kommunikation

Ich habe die Plattform immer ganz normal genutzt. Mein Verhalten hat sich im Vergleich zur Vergangenheit nicht verändert – in der Vergangenheit wurden Auszahlungen unter denselben Bedingungen problemlos durchgeführt.

Aus meiner Sicht gibt es keinen nachvollziehbaren Grund für dieses Vorgehen. Ich habe die Plattform so genutzt, wie sie vorgesehen ist.

Es wirkt für mich so, als wäre mein Konto gerade in einer Phase gesperrt worden, in der ich etwas häufiger ausgezahlt habe. Dabei habe ich davor und auch zwischendurch immer wieder Geld verloren, was dieses Vorgehen noch unverständlicher macht.

Besonders problematisch ist, dass das Casino jede konkrete Erklärung vermeidet. Ohne eine klare Begründung ist es mir nicht möglich, den Vorwurf nachzuvollziehen oder darauf zu reagieren.

Ich fordere daher: Die Auszahlung meiner 769 €
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