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I've been trying to resolve this issue since Friday, but three days have passed, and no one has addressed it. The support staff is unable to help; they simply state that the matter needs to be resolved with the support team. However, when you contact support via email, they only respond by saying that the account is verified, without providing any further assistance. Their responses take a long time, and they are not helpful.
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Dear @Thomps1993,

The AskGamblers Complaint Team is kindly asking you to update your complaint in a timely manner and confirm if you consider the issue resolved. Please note that, in case you fail to respond within the given timeframe we will consider your case resolved and it will be closed accordingly.

Please keep in mind that as per the AGCCS Terms and Guidelines which you accepted upon registering and using our complaint system, you are obliged to provide the necessary level of assistance and cooperation during the process and providing updates in a timely manner is a must.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

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Dear Thomps1993,

We understand your desire to receive your funds as soon as possible, our staff also endeavours to make all payments on time.

We would like to inform you that according to the rules of our project your withdrawal was made on a personalised schedule:

6.16 The casino has the right to determine its own terms of payment and withdrawal of funds, as well as well as the maximum and minimum withdrawal amount for each procedure, which may vary depending on the withdrawal method, account status and activity and other possible factors affecting the withdrawal process.

Also, at this time your withdrawal request has already been successfully completed.

With respect,
Smokace Casino Team
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They even contradict themselves in what they say. As you can see in the image, the support staff claims that the processing time is 24 hours... However, this withdrawal was made in much longer than 24 hours...
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Dear Thomps1993,

We would like to inform you that your withdrawal request is active and will be processed according to the individual schedule on 24.02.2025

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

With respect,
Smokace Casino Team

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Unfair Token Restrictions at Smokace Casino

Dear AskGamblers Team,

I am reaching out to request your assistance regarding an issue with SmokAce Casino.

SmokAce Casino features a "Tokens" system, prominently accessible from the side menu of their site. Users earn SMOKY tokens by wagering on any casino game, which can then be converted to real money at a rate of 0.004 USD per token. While this initially appears to be a typical rakeback feature, there’s an additional element: alongside tokens, players earn "hold limits." Players have the option to hold their tokens instead of converting them into real money, utilizing their hold limit. By doing so, they receive a small share of the casino’s profits during the holding period.

This setup bears an unsettling resemblance to traditional investment scams. In such scams, victims are lured by promises of attractive returns on investments, but the perpetrators ultimately keep the money for themselves. To gain trust, scammers may allow some initial withdrawals, convincing victims of the scheme’s legitimacy and encouraging them to invest more. However, when the victim tries to withdraw a significant amount, the scammers block access and pocket the funds.

SmokAce Casino’s model appears to follow a similar pattern. By promising profit-sharing for token holders, the casino strongly incentivizes players to earn and hold tokens rather than converting them into cash. At one point, the casino even sold tokens directly for real money, some of which I purchased.

I was intrigued by this feature and opted to hold my tokens rather than withdraw them. As mentioned, I even purchased additional tokens. I continued to play daily, accumulating tokens and hold limits. Over the course of this year, I amassed approximately 6.7 million SMOKY tokens, equivalent to 26,800 USD.

On September 20, 2024, I decided it was time to withdraw some of my tokens. The withdrawal limit at the time was 250,000 SMOKY (1,000 USD) per day. I successfully withdrew this amount on three consecutive days: September 20, 21, and 22. However, on September 23, the withdrawal limit was abruptly reduced to 25,000 SMOKY (100 USD) per day—one-tenth of the previous limit.

I contacted live support and was informed that the withdrawal limit on my account had been temporarily reduced. On October 1, I reached out to my VIP manager for clarification, specifically asking why the limit had been reduced so significantly and how long this “temporary” reduction would last.

I was repeatedly told that the TruePlay platform was responsible for setting these limits and that SmokAce Casino had no control over them. Later, I discovered this was an outright lie—it was SmokAce Casino that set the limits. Despite numerous follow-ups, I received no satisfactory answers. I also requested additional information, including the Terms and Conditions governing the TruePlay platform.

After a month of back-and-forth communication, SmokAce Casino updated their Terms and Conditions to include a new section titled “18. Third-Party Services.” This section specifically addressed the TruePlay widget integration and SMOKY tokens, granting the casino sweeping rights over token-related restrictions. Clause 18.3 states:

"SmokAce reserves the right, at its discretion, to restrict the receiving, earning, and withdrawal of SMOKY Tokens based on user activity."

On November 1, I finally received the following response:

"The temporary withdrawal limitation of the Tokens is, indeed, for an undefined period of time. This is due to the fact that the review of the same limit is affected by the account’s activity history. The limit may be set by the Administration for an indefinite period of time. We do not provide the criteria by which the user is checked, his activity, as well as a detailed analysis of actions in the account. Tokens are part of the internal loyalty program, so the Administration fully reserves the right to set any limits and restrictions, as well as not to carry out any checks."

Reluctantly, I accepted these answers and continued withdrawing tokens at the reduced rate of 25,000 SMOKY per day.

However, on November 27, my withdrawal limit was set to zero, completely preventing me from withdrawing any of my remaining 4.9 million SMOKY tokens (worth approximately 19,600 USD).

On November 28, I contacted my VIP manager again, requesting either reimbursement for my remaining tokens or the reinstatement of at least the 25,000 SMOKY daily withdrawal limit. My request was denied, with the casino citing the aforementioned 18th section of their Terms and Conditions.

I believe I was deliberately misled by SmokAce Casino. They lured players with promises of profit-sharing for holding SMOKY tokens while giving the impression that these tokens could be safely withdrawn at their equivalent cash value. It is now clear that they had no intention of honoring their commitments. Instead, they appear to be running a scheme that mirrors an investment scam. Such conduct is unacceptable, especially for a casino ranked as “Great” and trusted by AskGamblers. Moreover, this behavior damages trust in the TruePlay platform and other reputable casinos utilizing it.

I kindly ask for your help in resolving this matter. Specifically, I request:

1. Full reimbursement for my remaining tokens at the agreed value of 0.004 USD per token, or the reinstatement of my previous withdrawal limits.

2. Transparency from SmokAce Casino regarding the criteria used to set individual withdrawal limits.

3. A clear warning on the Tokens page about the risk of withdrawal restrictions, ensuring players understand the potential loss of access to their SMOKY token assets.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Best regards,

Manfred

Status solved Gelöst
$19,600
Delaying payment of 2500 euro and not answering emails
Hi,

So first of all; I like this Casino, they have a broad variety of games and a really friendly support. However it's pretty long waiting times to get withdrawals or to get answers from financial department. Maybe they have alot to do, I don't know.

So I've been playing here quite alot, winning and loosing, just as per usual. Last monday I was lucky and won a few thousand euros. For some reason they have limited my withdrawals to 500 euro each time and you can only queue up 3 at once so you can only have 3 withdrawals pending, meaning for me 1500 euro at once. This is really no big issue if they just pushed the withdrawals through with speed. Before I've gotten my withdrawals on mondays, wednesday and fridays which is still fine, a little bit slow with only 500 euro at once but still acceptable. Since in an earlier complaint they refered to "you can at any time e-mail us and ask for your withdrawal schedule" I've done that but this time with no answers. I have given them 5 days to answer my e-mail which I think is quite enough.

So far since last monday I've gotten 2/3 of the original withdrawals. And qued up another 2. It is said on the site that the daily withdrawal limit is 1000 EACH DAY, but these last week it looks like they push it to each week. Having a 1000 euro withdrawal each week is way too slow. I think I would accept a slower withdrawal tempo if they just stood to their word and answered my e-mails about sending a withdrawal schedule.

As I first stated this is a good and legit Casino but right now I need a little bit help from askgamblers to get answers, as I don't seem to be able to get them myself. What is the timeline for me to withdraw my 2500 euro?

I will add screenshots showing my case.

Thank you,
Status solved Gelöst
€3,500
Casino refuses to payout EXTRA

Ok, 2nd try.

Firstly: I always asked to send me a live chat transcript but I never received one...so this last live chat is copy/paste (I always do this as a sort of backup)

Secondly: the emails that the operator says were mailed to me from their finance department did not end up in my inbox or spam folder.

Thirdly: I do receive loads of promo emails so a kink in the cable, email blocked or so, is nonexistent.

What concerns the €25 I'm trying to withdraw was done when my account was already fully verified.

My first deposit was done through Mifinity as a third-party payment provider for Bancontact (which is linked to my bank account to my name), I tried to withdraw €50 to Mifinity and got a message that I could only withdraw to my bank account or Mifinity if I made a deposit using Bank Transfer first.

Obviously identity is henceforth verified through the payment.

So I deposited €25 and got their second bonus which I wagered.

I tried to withdraw € 50 to Mifinity but it stayed pending the next day, and that's when I contacted live chat (see 1. txt).

I got somewhat angry and said, I'll blow my money away and just close my account.

Upon reaching €25 balance I decided to withdraw a second time and having already opened a topic on the forum about Smokace's handling I got the advice and my own intention for the first time to use AGCCS when I got the same not verified BS through live chat (see 2. txt).

Lastly: I won't be sending any more personal documents as, like I said earlier, I'm verified and the withdrawal is exactly the same amount as the deposit, via the same way I deposited but would now like to withdraw: bank transfer.

The screenshots are proof of my deposit, withdrawal efforts, verified account, and account itself.

Status rejected Abgelehnt
€25