Confiscated legitimate winnings with unproven accusations of a bonus terms violation
Dear all,
Following a careful review and consideration of all the information, details and proof presented by the parties during the complaint process, the AskGamblers Complaint Team reached to the conclusion that Miami Dice Casino management acted in accordance with their Terms and Conditions. Unfortunately, the player indeed placed higher bet then allowed, which is in direct violation of the following casino term:
The maximum bet allowed whilst the welcome bonus is in play is $5. Should you bet higher than this while the welcome bonus is in play, we reserve the right to confiscate all winnings
Based upon the fact that the player placed only one bet in violation of the aforementioned casino term, Miami Dice Casino management offered a goodwill gesture of CAD1,500 cash credits which we consider to be a fair compensation considering the circumstances.
Based on the above, the AskGamblers Complaint Team considers this case resolved and it is now officially closed.
Thank you for providing that spreadsheet, I have gone through it the time you referenced was not accurate but going through it further I now do see one single bet of $6.25 on the game tomb of mirrors a bet that I did not even win on and was obviously a computer glitch or a mistake on my end as you can see from the other hundreds of pages of my bet history I made sure I was always abiding by your bonus terms. I really would not have played for hours and hours on end wagering through the bonus requirement. In future is it not possible to have a pop up stating player has breached so they don’t waste all their time?
I have gone to that game today on my account and it seems the bets go from $2.50 - $6.25 is there a chance your system started me on $6.25? I would never have moved a bet up over $5.00 while on my bonus this was a total honest mistake. Is there no way Miami Dice is willing to overlook this? It’s seems very unfair to me that my winnings were confiscated over one single bet $1.25 over the allowed amount that I didn’t win on and didn’t mean to do.
I understand your terms and you reserve the right to confiscate winnings for players that are breaching you’re terms but in my case this seems very unfair and unreasonable. Furthermore I had reached out asking for this spreadsheet before making my 3rd party complaint. In future to avoid complaints like this and to make your customers experience much better, I think providing the breach in the same email as the one you send out stating that you have confiscated winnings should be done. This could have been dealt with in a much different way as there are hundreds and hundreds of pages of game play and because that would never have been my intention and going through thousands and thousands of bets with a fine tooth comb , sure there had been a mistake made, this could have saved me hours and hours of my time trying to understand emailing back and forth talking with you chat team and going through my bet history trying to deal with the situation. I would never have gotten a third party involved if this was dealt with differently. Having said all that I hear that your decision is unchanged and that is very unfortunate. To be clear tho, I did go through the spread sheet and there was 1 breach for $6.25 the whole welcome bonus. 1 bet in thousands which still doesn’t make sense to me, I’m sure your system must have started me there. @askgamblers I’m so sorry to waste your time as I was 100% sure I did not go over and I am still boggled but it says in the spread sheet they sent. Super unfortunate.
Thank you for your post.
In order to provide some clarity on the matter at had we note that you were indeed in breach of the maximum bet rule, as outlined in clause 6 of the Promotional Terms specific to the welcome bonus offer https://www.miamidice.com/?page=promotions&scrollTo=welcome_promoterms (https://www.miamidice.com/?page=promotions&scrollTo=welcome_promoterms) which states: “The maximum bet allowed whilst the welcome bonus is in play is $5. Should you bet higher than this while the welcome bonus is in play, we reserve the right to confiscate all winnings”
This was because of placing a bet exceeding CA$5 while the welcome bonus was in play, to note the violation transpired on the game Tomb of Mirrors on 28-04-2020 18:49:53 BST.
As a result, and in accordance with our terms the withdrawal was cancelled, the winnings confiscated and the deposit of $200 made returned to your gaming account, which you have since successfully withdrawn.
Subsequent to an internal dispute raised, we re-visited your case and although we resolved that the decision taken would stand, given the evident violation we were willing to offer you a gesture of goodwill.
While the review was underway and in referencing your claim that you were advised that there 3 breaches had occurred, we note that the very evidence submitted by yourself contradicts your claim; as the Customer Support Host stated “I can see 3 different bets in your account over the maximum bet allowed, but I cannot confirm which of them produced the breach” and further encouraged you to wait for feedback from the dispute raised.
Trusting that this provides the clarity that you were seeking, should you have any further queries in this regard we encourage you to reach out to our complaints team by responding to the email they sent to you on 11th May 2020.
@AskGamblers please note that we have submitted evidence of the breach to the player and yourselves, thus answering the player's query. We would as such ask you to kindly resolve and close this post please.
Kind Regards
Miami Dice Casino
I’m more confused now than ever.
Complaints Team (Miami Dice)
May 11, 2020, 4:20:33 PM UTC
Dear Ms. Noah,
We acknowledge your email dated 10th May 2020.
We have undertaken a review of your correpondence and note that the Customer Support host stated "I can see 3 different bets in your account over the maximum bet allowed, but I cannot confirm which of them produced the breach" For your reference we note that the breach occurred at 28-04-2020 18:49:53 (BetID: 193412479258) which was while the welcome bonus was in play; and further confirm that the bonus was released on 29-04-2020 03:19:15. Attached, please find your full game-play, as well as an overview of the breach outlined on tab 2.
We draw your attention to Clause 6 of the Promotional Terms specific to the Welcome Bonus offer https://www.miamidice.com/?page=promotions&scrollTo=welcome_promoterms, which states: “The maximum bet allowed whilst the welcome bonus is in play is $5. Should you bet higher than this while the welcome bonus is in play, we reserve the right to confiscate all winnings”; and note that your winnings were therefore confiscated, in accordance with our terms. Our records further confirm that you made and that you have since successfully withdrawn the returned deposit.
Based on the clear violation of our terms the casino is entitled to confiscate the full balance.
However, our aim is always to ensure that our players have a fair experience. Therefore, although the decision taken remains unchanged, we are willing to offer you $1,500 cash credits, by way of a gesture of goodwill.
Upon confirmation from yourself that you have closed all third party and/ or forum disputes and accept this as a final resolution to the matter the funds will be credited to your Miami Dice account, which you will be free to withdraw or wager, as you prefer.
We await your reply.
Regards
Complaints Team
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