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Refused to pay out $12,500 dollars in winnings and closed my account for 'fraud'


hace 7 años
So i recently decided to try my luck at online Casinos I googled a little bit and found that Playamo was a recommended online casino, so i decided to try it out. I deposited $750 dollars AUD and played evolution gamings roulette. I played a while and turned that $750 AUD to $12,500 AUD (betting history will be attatched). So i decided to cashout and I waited a while since I read some comments on ASKGAMBLERS that it would take a few working days to receive.

So today on Melbourne time GMT + 10 Tuesday 2nd October around 1 am I got an email saying my withdrawal was declined and also another email saying that my account will be closed by administrative decision due to fraud and that it will not be discussed any further. Not know what happened I went to check my account and ask what happened. The first time I opened their support chat and asked they gave me the same message saying it will not be discussed and closed the chat on me. Then i checked account said I have $686 in my account balance and that a cash out of $11,814 dollars was accepted. So i tried to cashout my remaining $686 dollars in my account balance and a few minutes later I get an email saying Sorry withdrawals to Mastercard not support. Alternatively you can use bank transfer option or VISA. So i went to ask support again if Mastercard isn't accepted how is my cash out of $11,814 AUD accepted? They gave me a repeat of that fraud message and I told them that i understood and asked them what will happen to the accepted withdrawal. They said "You will only get my deposits back please use bank transfer or visa to cashout." So what my deposits are $686 AUD? the money left in my balance is less than that of the $750 I deposited. The support team of Playamo casino is not helpful no matter how polite you are. All i want is to cash out my deposit and my winnings and why I committed fraud but they wouldn't give me an answer. They labeled the $11,814 as accepted however it is not in my account. I still haven't provided them with bank details or a visa card yet so how could that $11,814 be accepted, this is an abuse of power. I'm afraid they'll close the account quickly once i do provide them with a visa or bank account so i lose all proof and they give me the $686 in my balance back which isn't fair and they shouldn't be able to take my deposit and my winnings with no explanation at all.

Below Listed are attachements that will be sent to the askgamblers support team:
- Gambling history on the roulette game x4 images
- Cashout and Deposit History on Play Amo Website
- Play Amo Account Balance Page
- Play Amo Profile Page
- Bank account Deposit History
- Current Bank Account Balance and deposit history.
- Playamo email Ticket 1 (Ticket #NU1GB: Account) informing me of the closing of account due to fraud
- Playamo email Ticket 2 (Ticket #WSHT7: master card) informing me of mastercard not supported
- Playamo Chat Transcript
- Playamo Documents and Verification Page
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Casino en conflicto Playamo Casino
Cantidad $12500

Discusión

User name

This complaint has been reopened as per submitter's request and AskGamblers Complaints Team would like to give it one more try and help both parties involved into the dispute reaching to a satisfactory resolution.

User name loyalty-level-2
Dear Playamo support team,

Please provide evidence of so called ‘fraud’ play by using strategy. Also I would like to note that stating that the $64 you returned to me as a gift is false as it belongs to me in the first place and returning it does not justify confiscating my winnings. Also the $11,814 that is stated as accepted is also false. You guys manipulating the system to your favour is fraud itself. Mind you if MasterCard is not supported how on earth did I pay the deposit with it in the first place? Please give evidence and an explanation to the following questions. By this point i’m Only replying to myself and providing more proof of the fraudulent casino you are.

Best Regards,
Matthew
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They also said that I can withdraw my complete deposit but my current balance in the account is still $686 dollars which is not the $750 I originally deposited. They are really trying hard to avoid paying out a winner. Hands down the worst layers and casino experience i’be Ever had.
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User name loyalty-level-2
To all whom is reading this, I took my time writing this because I have decided to take action upon this casino and it’s unfairness. Also so all people who come here can see what Playamo truly is and so that you don’t have to go through what I went through. You don’t have to read it all but I urg you to that you try your luck in another casino. I have been all but fair and kind to the support team the website. But this is truly outrageous.

I just got a reply from the casino saying that my fraudulent actions were due to me developing a strategy to win and that is considered unfaithful winning and $11,814 of my winnings including some of my deposit is confiscated due to that. I had to go to my lawyers and push the casino for this reply. If developing a strategy means betting on your favourite and lucky numbers of your star sign and Chinese calendar birth year is considered a strategy then you would have confiscated many players winnings. How is that faithful? How is just because a player wins big means they used a strategy and so that is fraud and considered unfaithful without first looking into it further and providing the person with proof? What is the meaning of strategy? How broad can that word be? And by being so broad you could have already confiscated hundreds of players money and how is that faithful and not fraudulent? Let me give you one example of how your casino is fraudulent and trying to rip people off of their money. Beware of the Playamo casino ‘bonus’ terms and conditions and do not accept the bonuses because it comes with a catch. So this is how I got into this casino in the first place the first and second deposit bonuses. I deposited $500 AUD for my first deposit and $250 for my second deposit. After I received the bonuses I continued to play without know the terms and conditions. I won up to 6,855 in roulette and decided I should cash out. But when I went to do it it constantly got declined. I went to ask support and they said that I have to meet the wager requirements first before I could cash out. The terms and conditions states that the wager requirements is l determined by x50 of your original deposits amount. In my case this was 500x50= 25,000 on my first and 250x50= 12,500 on my second. But in the terms and conditions it also states that the maximum bet in my country is $6.5 dollars AUD which means I have to bet about 4000 times to get the first wager requirement of 25,000 that is considering the fact that I have to constantly win up to that amount as well because how can I wager 25,000 when I don’t have that amount. I decided to try and reach the wager requirement since I had nothing to do. Almost 4 hours pass of me sitting in front of my computer playing a slot machine on maximum bet of $6.5 per spin and a maximum amount of auto spins I only got through about 20% of the wager requirement so I finally decided to forfeit my bonus and my winnings of $6,855 AUD including bonus nd my original deposits and try again with my original deposits of $500+ $250 AUD. I played roulette again and manage to get lucky hitting numbers and win up to $12,500 dollars mind you I did play again and lost $3000 of my cash out of $12,000 dollars before I decided to stop after winning again to my current $12,500 amount. Again if betting your favorite numbers and stopping and controlling your desire to gamble is considered a strategy and which then leads to fraud which makes your winnings unfaithful then shouldn’t your way of implementing your bonuses, wager requirements and maximum bets considered unfaithful as well? How realistic is it to play roulette with a maximum board bet of $6.5 how is Your casino faithful to its customers when you guys determine that your winners are automatically deemed to have committed fraud? Please be aware that Playamo exists only because you have to lose and when it’s time for you to win for a change they will confiscate your winnings and just decide that it is fraud because you won.

Please provide further proof of this Playamo or further actions will be taken to ensure no one falls for your traps or enters your casino again. You don’t deserve your ask gamblers certificate of trust. And you certainly don’t deserve good ratings and the public’s trust.
You Support team are like rude auto answering machines and are very unhelpful.

Attached will be the reply I got from The playamo casino but keep in mind there still is no proof. I can tell you exactly how I played but of course the word ‘strategy’ is quite broad and can be used against all players.

Estadísticas de quejas de Playamo Casino

Resueltas 98 / 100
Cantidad promedio $8,389
Duración media de quejas 6 días
Tiempo de respuesta promedio 2 días
One successful withdrawal and now cancelled on bigger amount

I am beyond frustrated I am an Australian player and I have gone above and beyond to prove my identity to playamo…. I won $3000 and withdrew that amount and then withdrew $900 via bank transfer they were both processed and all sent to their end (what they said) I successfully got the $900 into my bank and I waited another week or so for the $3000 then I randomly get an email saying I cancelled the withdrawal which I did not.

So then they said I needed to verify my id again and there is a security issue with the L on my identification which is my middle name that’s not printed on my bank card like that but my bank card says My name and I have had a successful withdrawal before with no issue….

Now they have asked me to open a cryptocurrency wallet to have my withdrawal put into instead & apparently once the withdrawal is complete via cryptocurrency my profile will then be deleted!!!?

I am so confused By all this I have done absolutely EVERYTHING to verify my identification and trying to now withdraw $2890 after they let me play through some.

I got that many identifications to prove it’s me & a successful withdrawal into bank and still security says there’s now an issue, not a big surprise they don’t want to give me the larger amount…. When I withdraw the smaller amount the day after and got that not a problem…

Now all these issues for no reason when I have got all my Identification even offered my birth certificate…

I am beyond disappointed and upset with all this.

Status solved Resuelta
$3,000
Assistance required: Withdrawal is being cancelled
Hello.
I have only been playing with Online Casinos for a few months.
I tried to cashout at Playamo Casino and after waiting several days, I received an email tonight stating that my cashout has been cancelled! I now have none of that money in my Bank Account or in my Casino Account.
I originally tried to cashout $1502.50 on September 23rd but it was discarded by PlayAmo and the money stayed in my Casino Account. I decided to continue playing. I then tried to cashout $1650.40. On September 28th, after supplying all documentation requested, it was accepted. I received an email stating the money was being sent to my bank. I waited several days for the money to go into my bank account. I contacted the support team but was asked to patiently wait.
On Monday October 4th, whilst still waiting for the money to go into my Bank Account, I decided I would deposit more money into my PlayAmo Account so I could play the slots.
When I logged in, to my surprise, the $1650.40 that I was expecting to be in my Bank Account was put back into my Casino Account.
Even though I was annoyed that it was not deposited into my Bank Account, there was no need to deposit more money as I had a balance of $1,650.40.
After playing and losing about $800, I won a feature.
I then decided that I would cashout my balance of $3102.31.
It "discarded" my first two attempts and finally changed the status to pending.
Tonight, October 6th, I received an email stating my entire balance of $3102.31 has been cancelled.
I feel I have been scammed.
I am concerned that the original withdrawal was deliberately put back into my Casino Account with hopes I would gamble it all away.
I had no intentions of gambling it all.
I won and decided to cashout.
I no longer apply for bonus' when I make deposits as it limits the choice of slots. Therefore the money I play with is purely mine.
Whatever the reason was for the $1650.40 going back into my PlayAmo Account, it was my money to gamble with - win or lose.
Now that I want to withdraw my winnings, they won't pay.
This is my money and I'm very distraught about it.
Any assistance with this matter would be greatly appreciated.
If you need copies of emails or anything else, please contact me.
Thank you.
Kind regards
Leonie
Status solved Resuelta
$3,102
Casino took 10 days and 4 requests to apply my requested self exclusion

On April 13/21 I sent an email to Playamo Customer Support requesting that they close my account permanently as I was choosing to Self-Exclude myself from their website indefinitely.


According to their website, when you set a Self-Exclusion Limit your Player Account will immediately be disabled and you will be excluded from all promotional offers for the set period. You will not be able to deposit or withdraw funds when the limit is active.

Under the terms and conditions it says that setting Self-exclusion lets us know that we need to take all measures to block your access to your account and make sure that you receive no promotional materials. You may also contact our support team at [email protected] and inform us about your decision to stop gambling at the Website for a certain period of time or forever. Self-exclusion means that you will be barred from play at all online casinos under the participating licence.


However this is not what happened to me. Instead of closing my account, Playamo Customer Support sent me back an email saying they were passing my message onto the dedicated team who would contact me.


On Apr 14/21, I received an email from Dana, my Playamo VIP Manager stating she received a message from player support, asking what can I do to help?


I replied to her on Apr 14/21, by forwarding my initial request to Player Support in regards to closing the account and self-excluding indefinitely to her email.


On Apr 16/21, Dana contacted me again to state that she had not heard back from me and she proceeded to offer me promotions and loyalty credits to continue playing on Playamo.com.


I emailed her back Apr 16/21 telling her everything I disliked about gambling on their site. Since I had already asked twice to be self excluded, I figured maybe telling her all my dislikes would get the job done. I was wrong. She just emailed me back on Apr 16/21 trying to convince me to play and even provided a cash bonus to my account to get me back playing.


I sent another email back a couple hours later on Apr 16/21 asking her to do as I requested and close my account and to honour my wishes to self-exclude from their site indefinitely.


I received the next email from Dana on Apr 19/21 stating that she respected my decision but asking me to ‘think one more time’. Then she went on to say what a smart player I am, how I am going to win big and offering me more no deposit cash bonuses, and bonus unofficial weekly cashback. Preying on all my weaknesses as a gambler. I finally said fine I would think about it to put the bonuses in my account.


Then Apr 22/21 I emailed Dana again. Only this time it was to request a refund for the $875 that I had been allowed to deposit into my account since making my first request to be self-excluded on Apr 13/21.


I told her that if my request for self-exclusion had been applied to my account as their policy states it should have immediately been, I would never have been able to deposit and lose another $875.


I received a message back from Dana Apr 22/21 stating she was sorry for my gambling problems, my account was now closed and she would pass my request for a refund on to administration. I would hear from them within 24hrs.


I received an email on Apr 23/21 stating that my account was closed and there would be no refund as it was closed as soon as I said I had a gambling addiction and they said nothing could be done as I did not contact them earlier.


I emailed back and forth with Player Support a few times stating I made earlier attempts and requests to have my account self-excluded... But for some reason they don’t seem to consider those as reason enough to immediately close the account even though that is exactly what their policy states.


I am not sure where to go from here. I can not provide a screen shot of the deposits to my Playamo account (but the casino should be able to provide that) as my account was closed while I was trying to do that.


I have included screen shots of the emails to verify what I am stating. I just want them to reimburse the $875 I was able to spend after they did not immediately disable my account after requesting self-exclusion.

Status solved Resuelta
$875