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Von Unknown
vor 8 Jahren
In June I started playing at Dunder. Deposit around 5K. Withdrawals around 2K. Six weeks later my luck changes and I can withdraw 15K. Of course that is the moment they block the account for verification.

At first it is no problem. Sad to say I have experiences with several online casino's. So I have my scan passport, PDF online bank statement ready. I sent it on Saturday.

I keep waiting but at Monday there is still no response. The help desk chat state that the quality is not sufficient. They want pictures of the documents. I explain that the bank statement is digital but oke. I make a picture of my passport, print the bank statement and take a picture of it.

Still no response and later that day the help desk chat say that the address on the bank statement is not sufficient. Strange. I suggest to send a letter. No I needed to send a tax statement.

In the evening they received a tax statement.

The next morning (Tuesday) the help desk chat says that the tax statement cannot be blanked. But why do they have to have my personal financial information for a simple address check?!?

Later that day they finally react on a those emails and say that they want a selfie with my passport and a paper issued bank statement.

I explain that it is an online bank with no paper issued bank statements since 2006(?).

Still I sent them a picture of my bank card and will sent the selfie with the passport later today.

I do hope that the selfie will resolve this problem but my trust in Dunder is getting lower by the hour. I fear that they will make up another excuses to no pay out.

Especially when I informed after the pended withdrawals. The first response was that they were 10k (instead of 15k!!!!). Later another help desk employee confirmed it was 15K but I wonder what and when I can expect anything.
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Dear @Unknown,

Please confirm if the issue has been resolved. Keep in mind that in case you fail to respond within the given time frame we will consider your issue as resolved and your complaint will be closed accordingly.

Thank you for your cooperation.

User name
The issue arose due to a name and gender miss match of information on the account which as part of our MGA license obligations required us to perform further verification checks.
We attempted to conduct these via a verification phone call on multiple occasions but were unable to get in contact with the customer despite our best efforts.
We have since been able to complete these checks and the issue was resolved with the player being able to withdraw and deposit freely.
User name

This complaint has been reopened as per Dunder Casino request and AskGamblers Complaints Team would like to give it one more try and help both parties involved into the dispute reaching to a satisfactory resolution.

User name loyalty-level-2
It is been four days and still nothing. See here the attempts to communicated with Dunder.

Sunday 00:28 Dunder: Please send document for verification
Sunday 02:07 Player: Hereby scans of the requested documents
Sunday 19:05 Player: Please respond on verification
Sunday 19:51 Dunder: I will take 24 hours to respond
Monday 12:00 Dunder: Need extra proof, send pictures not scans
Monday 12:24 Player: As requested: pictures of the documents
Monday 20:00 Dunder: Need extra proof of address, show tax papers
Monday 20:25 Player: As requested: scan tax papers
Tuesday 9:48 Dunder: You have 10K pending withdrawals
Tuesday 9:49 Player: Please check again
Tuesday 10:08 Dunder: You have 15.8K pending withdrawals
Tuesday 10:08 Player: Please respond on verification
Tuesday 11:13 Dunder: Need paper issued bank statement and selfie
Tuesday 11:43 Player: Paper issued bank statement do not exist, hereby screenshot online bank account
Tuesday 14:13 Dunder: Yes you do have paper issued bank statements
Tuesday 14:27 Player: No really, my bank does not issue paper bank statements but hereby pictures of my bank card
Tuesday 14:44 Player: Why a paper issued bank statement for check bank and name if you have (i) PDF bank statement (ii) picture of printed bank statement (iii) screenshot online bank account portal (iv) picture bank debet card?
Tuesday 16:22 Player: Hereby paper issued bank statement (= printed PDF statement which they already have) but with stamp on it
Wednesday 10:30 Dunder: Need scan bank statement with stamp
Wednesday 11:01 Player: Hereby scan bank statement with stamp
Wednesday 13:58 Player: Please respond
Thursday 7:33 Player: Please respond
Thursday 11:02 Player: Please respond
Thursday 13:04 Player: Please respond
Thursday 19:42 Player: Please respond

Keep in mind that this is only the verification process. How long will it take until they going to pay out the pending withdrawals?

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Durchschn. Betrag $12,135
Durchschn. Dauer 7 Tage
Durchschn. Antwortzeit 2 Tage
Withdrawals are being rejected
Good afternoon, I'm writing this letter to bring to your attention that I'm very dissatisfied with the sevrices of Dunder Casino.

I took part in one of their promotions on Dec 10th, won 2850, but the thing is that I'm still trying to get my funds out of there. My withdrawal is just being rejected again and again, and every conversation with live chat agents just go in circles.

At first, when my withdrawal was cancelled, I didn't even receive any email, I just logged in to check if it was pending, as it didn't reach my account, but noticed that it was returned back to my gaming account. I asked to enable skrill as a withdrawal method for me, but had no luck with that. I explained to their agent that my card currently doesn't accept direct withdrawals from gambling institutions, that is why I asked them to do a refund as they only allow to withdraw to bank accounts starting with GB. After that they requested a bank statement related to my card I used to deposit with, I sent that, they requested a deposit to their site to be visible, I did that too, but covered my personal transactions as I wasn't comfortable with sending my personal info. Finally I sent them the satatement with all transactions visible and they approved it. After that I had to explain to an agent again that their site allows to withdraw to GB accounts only and here they claimed that my deatils are wrong... What a surpeise to discover that my own banking deatils which I got from my banking app are wrong just because their site has issues. I explained that I'm using an international online bank, which is based in Belgium, but it can be used throughout Europe. After that I opened a GBP card on my side, becasue wanted to try that option, bank account details were still the same, but they didn't want to let me withdraw there too! After a chat they finally allowed me to withdraw to GBP account and this time they confirmed that my withdrawal was processed on their side. I was so happy that finally my time was worth it, however, my withdrawal wasn't coming, I contacted them again, and they asked for GBP statement, which I uploaded straingh away. It's been 2 weeks since I won that cash, I contacted them again and discovered that it was rejected, because it didn't show deposit to their site.... They adviced to withdraw again and promised to process it again, but it was rejected again.

It's been more than a month now, and we're still going in circles. Every time I contact their live chat agents I have to explain everything again and again, I'm already sick of it.

I will be very gald if you will look into this for me, and try to help me to get my honestly earned money.

Kind regards,

Marguerita
Status unsolved Ungelöst
£2,850
Missing Withdrawal Still no resolution
I requested a withdrawal of NZD$170.00 on the 10th of November 2021. I received an email the same day saying that funds had been sent. I have yet to receive those funds.

I contacted the casino, was asked to provide bank statements which I did. They provided me an ARN number and requested me to ask my bank to track it.

My bank informed me via phone that they are unable to track using that ARN number, and explained that they would not no where to look from the start. Their suggestion which makes logical sense was that the sender should be able to track it as they have much better visibility from their end as it can be stepped through step by step as to where it has gone through.

I contacted customer service, and apparently me telling them what my bank had said on the phone was insufficient proof and they required written information to say that the bank cant track it before they will do anything.

Doing so delayed me a few days (we are now at the 19th of November) by the time I get the written confirmation of this. I am again asked to provide bank statements when I contacted customer service again.

From this date it has gone into a black hole, as of writing this complaint I have spent countless hours following up with customer service live chat, and following the directions of staff there who have told me to email my complaint. I did so on the 25th of November. I received an automated response saying my email had been received and it was assigned #475729.

I have yet to receive any further acknowledgement from this point.

I have had numerous conversations with customer service agents asking for follow up with the payments team, and what the status of the request 475729 is. I am given the same answer, they will tell a manager and still nothing happens. I am told there is nothing more that customer service can do and if I want to complain or say anything further, to email. Its a loop.

I have today forced myself to stay up late, into the early hours of the morning my time. I have now found out that the payments team have emailed the payment provider a number of times and have had no response from the payment provider.

Almost a month from the initial withdrawal request and we are no closer to any resolution. This is unacceptable.

I demand answers as what is taking so long, why there has been no further escalation if your service provider doesn't answer emails why has there been no phone calls, or follow up with the accounts manager at the payment providers site.

I also demand that my complaint, #475729 be looked into and resolved to my satisfaction.
I also demand an apology and an explanation of what went wrong here and how these issues can be mitigated going forward.

Finally I demand that my win be credited to my bank in the quickest way possible with interest.
Chart Pointer
0h übrig
$170
Lost deposit to my account, running in circles over CA$500

I won some money in early Oct 2021.

When I tried to withdraw, it was rejected after a few days. After much back and forth with them over this, I made a smaller withdrawal that I received without any issue. When I made another withdrawal of lesser amount, I received email that it was deposited into my account on Oct. 27th. After a week of not receiving it on my end I contacted Dunder multiple times, was given multiple different answers and eventually was given a ARN # , which I was told to give to my bank myself for them to track. I called my bank customer service, told them the problem and tried to give them this reference #, I was informed that they couldn't track what wasn't deposited and they had no idea what that # is.

It was suggested that I was probably being scammed. I then went physically into my branch this same day and was told the same thing by teller. I have been on chat with dunder many, many times and have emailed them several times. On chat I was told to track it myself with arn provided and all emails have been ignored thus far. I have been completely verified with them and provided bank statement showing I did not receive deposit email which was verified also. So to this date, I haven't received deposit or resolution to this issue. I did contact Malta Gamin Authority via email and was directed by them to file with ADR.

Before I do that I've sent Dunder another email today Nov 15/21 requesting resolution through their customer service and on here. I have chat transcripts about all of this I won 2000.00, I played back 900, withdrew 600 successfully and the 500.00 is apparently lost and I haven't received it.

Status unsolved Ungelöst
$500
Payment delay and no contact from payment department
During the following date i processed 3 withdrawal that were successfully approved as the screenshot shows:
the date and amount of money to withdrawal was:
350.84$ the 12/10/20 at 9;47:22
200$ the 12/10/20 at 17:35:00
50$ the 12/10/20 at 17:34:00

As their website announces the money transfer should take no more than 5 business days. and here we are 10 days later never received the money at my bank account. Instead last time i contacted customer support i found the surprise that 250$ were back to my account at the casino.
I had never received one email from the casino letting me know what happened to my bank account that the money was bounced back at their end.
I complain to customer service about that subject at that moment and the agent informed me that they will contact me the next day.
I was trying to reach customer support 3 times via their website 3 days before without a response wondering why was this happening, and also by email and no response about that matter.

My other concern is that they only offer bank transfer to withdrawal money. I asked the customer agent why they have all those method to receive payment and they don´t pay back using the same. I recommended to use Interact because is fast and secure. and so far i know they are register at Gigadat interact gateway to receive deposit. And i believe it should work the same time in the opposite direction.

At the end i got frustrated and played the 250$ that went back to my credit at Dunder casino. Because Im afraid they are not going to pay me my money at all.
My only hope is that Askgamblers contact them and make somehow, the remain 350$ left go back to my account via interact. Paypal or bank transfer.

Looking forward to hearing back from you with good news.
Status solved Gelöst
$350
Ignored permanently self exclusion under the same License MT SECURE
Dear whom may concern,

I was told that if I was self excluded on one of the casinos under the lisence of mt securetrade limited , I should of not been able to play on any of their casinos.

I was permanently self excluded on rizk casino (mt secure) on the 2016-11-24 23:38:22, and still am to this day.
This was also permanently and cant not be lifted at any time.
I have been able to play on dunder and depoist over £3000 , however I should of not been able to reopen my account with them as I was told by their live chat, that a permanently self excluded account can not be reopened however they did.

Both of these casinos are under the same license and dunder did not follow the rules and regulations,

I their for demand a full refund of all depoists made since the date of my permanently self exclusion on rizk casino under the mt licence which dunder also hold, as I should of never been able to reopen my account with Dunder as they hold the same licence.

I will attach print screens and emails from rizk which shows the information of my self exclusion + both details on both accounts are the exact same like the live chat confirmed it,

I give askgamblers full permission to check my data on both accounts.

Email is the same , name is the same, home address is the same and date of birth is the same , so they should of detected my account and not let me reopen it as the permeante self exclusion is under the same liscence as you can see from the email from rizk this can not be lifted at any time and dunder done this.
Status solved Gelöst