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Por Token T.
hace 5 años
Hi Team,

Assume this a common glitch as it's not the first occurrence for me and others across a couple of casinos that use the common Softswiss platform. Issue related to the 'bonus abuse' functionality which may, under certain circumstances, incorrectly confiscate a player win.

Below are the actions which took place over a 10-minute period.

August 21st, 21:23 (AEST) | August 21st, 11:23 (UTC)

Deposit of $75 AUD with $37.5 (50% bonus). This bonus was a VIP bonus applied after the deposit, meaning bonus funds are consumed before player funds (unlike most deposit bonuses where player funds are consumed first).

Starting balance: $112.5 AUD
Bonus wager: $0 / $1500

Began playing Nutcracker by iSoftBet, after 20 or so spins I opened another tab, where I started playing Fu Fortune, also by iSoftBet, simultaneously.

Balance: ~$95 AUD.

NUTC - $2bet $2bet $1bet
FUFO - $1bet $1bet $1bet

NUTC - $1bet THREE FAIRIES!! (Free spins).
Click on screen to start the feature (9:23pm).
FUFO - $1bet $1bet $1bet

NUTC - win additional ten free spins during feature.
FUFO - $1bet $1bet $1bet

Balance in both games is shown increasing > $200 (bet and balance history attached).

NUTC - win win win
FUFO - $1bet $1bet $1bet

Feature finishes after 3 minutes (9:26pm). Balance drops from >$450 down to $59.03, as the platform confiscated the $412 win from the Nutcracker feature.

Active bonus counted as 'lost' from the Fu Fortune bets while Nutcracker feature was being played - the platform incorrectly confiscated funds as part of 'bonus abuse' functionality to stop players who win a feature with bonus funds, but do not start the feature until bonus is no longer active. In my case, the feature was won and started immediately. While the balance in both slots was showing as increasing, behind the scenes the $37.5 bonus incorrectly counted as lost, even though balance did not reach $75 (my original deposit amount).

Requesting that $412 winnings are re-issued WITH an active bonus wager equal to the remaining wager that should still be active of ~$1450 or 4 x bonus of $412.

Attaching bet history confirming the above actions to be true. This alone should warrant the funds returned to the player, however after 11 days am yet to receive an outcome regarding the case (BBCUS-18665).

Thank you, keep up the excellent work.
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User name

Dear all,

As apparent from the submitter's latest post, the AskGamblers Complaint Team is pleased to announce the case has been resolved and closed.

We thank both parties for their assistance during the complaint process.

User name loyalty-level-2
Hi Team,

Feature win was credited to my account with wager today. This case can be closed.

Thank you for your assistance resolving the matter.

Tokentipsy.
User name loyalty-level-2
Hello,

Still waiting.. 3rd week and counting. Will you be providing some kind of compensation for the delay atleast? Confiscating a players funds for weeks is very poor business, especially given the amount of funds I've deposited.

How about $500 with no wager so I can cashout and find a new home...?

Tokentipsy.
User name
Hello,

We are very sorry for keeping you wait, however we have no update yet.
I want to ensure you that we will inform you right after we have an update from the provider.

Thank you for your patience.

Kind regards,
Playamo

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Now they have asked me to open a cryptocurrency wallet to have my withdrawal put into instead & apparently once the withdrawal is complete via cryptocurrency my profile will then be deleted!!!?

I am so confused By all this I have done absolutely EVERYTHING to verify my identification and trying to now withdraw $2890 after they let me play through some.

I got that many identifications to prove it’s me & a successful withdrawal into bank and still security says there’s now an issue, not a big surprise they don’t want to give me the larger amount…. When I withdraw the smaller amount the day after and got that not a problem…

Now all these issues for no reason when I have got all my Identification even offered my birth certificate…

I am beyond disappointed and upset with all this.

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Hello.
I have only been playing with Online Casinos for a few months.
I tried to cashout at Playamo Casino and after waiting several days, I received an email tonight stating that my cashout has been cancelled! I now have none of that money in my Bank Account or in my Casino Account.
I originally tried to cashout $1502.50 on September 23rd but it was discarded by PlayAmo and the money stayed in my Casino Account. I decided to continue playing. I then tried to cashout $1650.40. On September 28th, after supplying all documentation requested, it was accepted. I received an email stating the money was being sent to my bank. I waited several days for the money to go into my bank account. I contacted the support team but was asked to patiently wait.
On Monday October 4th, whilst still waiting for the money to go into my Bank Account, I decided I would deposit more money into my PlayAmo Account so I could play the slots.
When I logged in, to my surprise, the $1650.40 that I was expecting to be in my Bank Account was put back into my Casino Account.
Even though I was annoyed that it was not deposited into my Bank Account, there was no need to deposit more money as I had a balance of $1,650.40.
After playing and losing about $800, I won a feature.
I then decided that I would cashout my balance of $3102.31.
It "discarded" my first two attempts and finally changed the status to pending.
Tonight, October 6th, I received an email stating my entire balance of $3102.31 has been cancelled.
I feel I have been scammed.
I am concerned that the original withdrawal was deliberately put back into my Casino Account with hopes I would gamble it all away.
I had no intentions of gambling it all.
I won and decided to cashout.
I no longer apply for bonus' when I make deposits as it limits the choice of slots. Therefore the money I play with is purely mine.
Whatever the reason was for the $1650.40 going back into my PlayAmo Account, it was my money to gamble with - win or lose.
Now that I want to withdraw my winnings, they won't pay.
This is my money and I'm very distraught about it.
Any assistance with this matter would be greatly appreciated.
If you need copies of emails or anything else, please contact me.
Thank you.
Kind regards
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On April 13/21 I sent an email to Playamo Customer Support requesting that they close my account permanently as I was choosing to Self-Exclude myself from their website indefinitely.


According to their website, when you set a Self-Exclusion Limit your Player Account will immediately be disabled and you will be excluded from all promotional offers for the set period. You will not be able to deposit or withdraw funds when the limit is active.

Under the terms and conditions it says that setting Self-exclusion lets us know that we need to take all measures to block your access to your account and make sure that you receive no promotional materials. You may also contact our support team at [email protected] and inform us about your decision to stop gambling at the Website for a certain period of time or forever. Self-exclusion means that you will be barred from play at all online casinos under the participating licence.


However this is not what happened to me. Instead of closing my account, Playamo Customer Support sent me back an email saying they were passing my message onto the dedicated team who would contact me.


On Apr 14/21, I received an email from Dana, my Playamo VIP Manager stating she received a message from player support, asking what can I do to help?


I replied to her on Apr 14/21, by forwarding my initial request to Player Support in regards to closing the account and self-excluding indefinitely to her email.


On Apr 16/21, Dana contacted me again to state that she had not heard back from me and she proceeded to offer me promotions and loyalty credits to continue playing on Playamo.com.


I emailed her back Apr 16/21 telling her everything I disliked about gambling on their site. Since I had already asked twice to be self excluded, I figured maybe telling her all my dislikes would get the job done. I was wrong. She just emailed me back on Apr 16/21 trying to convince me to play and even provided a cash bonus to my account to get me back playing.


I sent another email back a couple hours later on Apr 16/21 asking her to do as I requested and close my account and to honour my wishes to self-exclude from their site indefinitely.


I received the next email from Dana on Apr 19/21 stating that she respected my decision but asking me to ‘think one more time’. Then she went on to say what a smart player I am, how I am going to win big and offering me more no deposit cash bonuses, and bonus unofficial weekly cashback. Preying on all my weaknesses as a gambler. I finally said fine I would think about it to put the bonuses in my account.


Then Apr 22/21 I emailed Dana again. Only this time it was to request a refund for the $875 that I had been allowed to deposit into my account since making my first request to be self-excluded on Apr 13/21.


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I emailed back and forth with Player Support a few times stating I made earlier attempts and requests to have my account self-excluded... But for some reason they don’t seem to consider those as reason enough to immediately close the account even though that is exactly what their policy states.


I am not sure where to go from here. I can not provide a screen shot of the deposits to my Playamo account (but the casino should be able to provide that) as my account was closed while I was trying to do that.


I have included screen shots of the emails to verify what I am stating. I just want them to reimburse the $875 I was able to spend after they did not immediately disable my account after requesting self-exclusion.

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