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Casino confiscated all my funds claiming that I over bet 5 euro with a bonus


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Por K P.
há 3 anos
Hi Askgamblers, I would like my complaint to be published publicly based on the information provided below. Before registering at this casino, I made sure to check askgamblers.com as the casino also carries ask gamblers approval seal and read other players reviews and complaints.

I played at this casino on January 1, 2023. I claimed a bonus crypto 100 % bonus offer with a max bet policy of 5 euro.
Around the time I had almost finished wagering my balance was near 4500 euro. After wagering, the balance randomly disappeared and chat agent created a ticket to have customer support email me.

About 30 minutes later, I received an email stating that I had broken the max bet policy on the bonus and bet the amount 5.40 euro one the game masterchen's fortune.

I can clearly deny this claim, as all of my bets placed were 5 euro and 4.50 euro, and they were all set on "AUTO-PLAY".

Another issue that arose during my game-play on "Master-chen's fortune", was that my game was randomly closed during my autospins for roughly a few minutes due to some error. I simply refreshed the page and went back on the game, and before clicking on auto-play again, I made sure my bet was at 4.50 before continuing.

To me personally it seems very clear that during my downtime while playing the slot masterchen on autospin, *someone or something* decided to manually placed bets of 5.40 on the game so I automatically denied my winnings.

With approximately 2776 spins, some how there are at-least 10x operation id's bets of 5.40 placed on the system when the whole time I was on the computer playing all my spins on "Auto-play" mode.

As a player with more than five years playing online casinos, I knew better and too never over bet at an online casino while playing with bonus funds.

Askgamblers, I ask the casino to check in-to this issue. I am actually requesting to contact the provider of master chen's fortune "pragmatic play" and check my gaming history during my gameplay, while I was playing auto-spins. To also check the "random" closing of the game, and finally to check the i.p. addresses and computer details to where the bets of 5.40 came from.

Thank you
Cassino em disputa ZenBetting Casino
Valor €4500

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Dear all,

Following a careful review and consideration of all the information, details and/or proof presented by the parties during the complaint process, the AskGamblers Complaint Team reached the conclusion that ZenBetting Casino management acted in accordance with their Terms and Conditions. 

Furthermore, during the course of the AGCCS (AskGamblers Casino Complaint Service) process, it has been discovered that the complainant has registered a third account on AskGamblers, while their previous two accounts were banned for utilizing the AGCCS in bad faith. As a result, the player's future access to the AGCCS has been revoked with immediate effect and complaint is being Rejected.

User name
Dear Askgamblers,

I ask you to request 4 certain proof from Zenbetting casino.

- Casino to make a request of IP and device + browser details from the gaming provider Pragmatic Play (not from zenbettings internal archives). Every gaming provider has access to the operation ID and from which IP the bets came from.

-Casino to make a request to the gaming provider of why my game was frozen during autoplay.

-A screenshot or video of their initial request to gaming provider for my gamelogs and another screenshot of their reply with the .csv file they provided to me.

My initial claim still stands, I did not over bet at Zenbetting casino whilst playing with a bonus.
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User name

Dear ZenBetting Casino,

The AskGamblers Complaint Team is kindly asking you to provide a detailed explanation of the issue along with all the relevant facts and evidence that could support your accusations towards the player. Please make sure to state all the relevant casino and/or promotional terms that you believe have been breached by the player, if any. Please send required information to suppor­t@a­skg­amb­ler­s.com directly.

Please note that according to the AGCCS Terms, we consider all the information presented during the course of our complaint process confidential and as such it will not be shared with third parties.

Please be in aware that in case you fail to respond and/or provide requested information within the given timeframe, the complaint will be closed as unresolved. As a direct consequence of such closure, the operator's ranking score on AskGamblers will be decreased accordingly.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

User name
HI,

Thanks for your reply.

First and foremost, I never requested screenshots of the max bet rounds (Which I never placed). I know these 5.40 bets exists on your system and are registered to the gaming provider. I'm trying to get bottom of why and how they exist.

I had requested that you provide a screenshot of your first contact to pragmatic play in which you requested my game logs and a screenshot of their reply providing you a .csv file. In your recent email on Jan 16, 2023, you've said " request of gameplay history has been requested via aggregator integral system, so we are not able to send those details ". I would like screenshots of those communications please, and they can also be provided to askgamblers.

I'm not asking you to provide details of IP and device from your internal systems, I am asking that you requests these details from pragmatic play for those 5.40 bets. Your casino will certainly state that it came from my IP address. Pragmatic play is very well capable of looking through their internal systems and checking for ip discrepancy and device details.

I am also asking to find out why slot stopped spinning during autoplay mode for a few seconds/minute. As I mentioned before, my gameplay was stopped by the system and I had to refresh the page to back on the game.

Either there's a major glitch at your casino which I am hoping for and it something you can resolve for me; or there is someone in your team logging on to players accounts and placing bets on their behalf so the player can forfeit their winnings.

In order to play those 5.40 bets, I would have had to stop playing my auto-play, then manually click spin 10 times, then go back to playing auto-play at 4.50 per spin. This does not add up at all.

Thank you

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Overbet glitch cost me thousands
I would like to begin by saying that I have played at online casinos for an extended period of time. My first complaint on this platform was published and resolved in 2018. I was playing prior to that as well but never ran into any real issues.

I am begging this complaint with that information because it is relevant to this case. Given my experience I am fully aware that casinos have a very specific set of Terms and conditions. When claiming a bonus, those terms often become even more complex and if broken, the casino has the right to void your winnings. Knowing all of this, I am always sure to check every term prior to playing on a new casino.

Zenbetting casino looked interesting to me, so I decided to give it a spin. I deposited over 50 times at this casinos, and ran into a bit of a cold streak when I started. I got 2 decent wins mid-month, verified myself and received payment from the casino. Shortly after, I won again and received that payment without any issues.

Near the end of the months is where things took a turn for the worse. I had a win confiscated immediately after my wagering was complete. I thought it was an error, but chat told me that I had bet 8 on the slot game Fortune of Giza. I thought to myself that it was impossible, but after going threw my betting history I saw that during a playing session there were a handful of 8$ bets placed. This drove me crazy ... not only did I not remember placing bets at that bet size, but I use the AutoPlay feature when playing and my bets were set at 6 per spin. ( The max bet when playing with that bonus offer is 6CAD). I remembered being logged out while spinning on the game and when I opened the game again, the bet size was set at 8 per spin, so I adjusted it back to 6 and continue spinning. I know that when you exit a game and re-enter on the same casino, the PragmaticPlay software will keep the same bet-size you used last. I didn't pay much attention and continued spinning.

After all this I decided to give the casino the benefit of the doubt, and said to myself "maybe I overbet by mistake" after all I had no reason to think otherwise.

I made 9 deposits after that incident, and on the 9th I won nearly 5000$. I opened the game Mayana and put the bet at 5$ per spin and set 1000 spin auto plays at a time until my wager was complete. I started playing on the 30th and completed the wager on the 31st. After my wagering was done, the casino confiscated my money and claimed I bet 10$ on the game Mayana and that I had breached their terms.

We went back and forth over the next few days, they sent me an excel spreadsheet which they claimed was provided to them from the Quickspin provider that shows my gaming history and times of the bets placed. This spreadsheet shows that during the end of my session on the 30th of December I placed bets of 5$,5$,10$,10$,10$,10$, and then finished the sessions with a 5$ bet. All this happened within 1 minute and 45 seconds according to the sheet, except that this never actually happened. These bets were never placed at 10$. Why would someone with the years of experience I have stop their Autoplay session which was spinning for over an hour to place 4 bets at 10 per spin only to finish their session with 1 bet at 5$.

In order for this series of events to have taken place there would have needed to be not one, but 5 miss-clicks. One to move the betsize from 5 to 10, 2-5 spinning the slot at 10$ per spin. The slot was set on auto spin, this series of events never happened ...

I spoke to the casino about this, and told them that it was impossible, even bringing up my previous win where the same thing happened. I told them I was not going to let this win go like I did the last. The casino simply replied to refer to the excel document they provided me and see that there were bets placed at 10$ and there was nothing they could do.

I was browsing on AskGamblers the other day to get my mind off of this and saw an active complaint against zenbetting casino. I read threw it and it was complete deja-vu. Everything I was reading on the complaint happened to me. I thought to myself I am going to tell the casino and ask them to restore my balance. They said they would look into it ... they've been looking into it for over a week now. They even closed the support ticket about this and claimed it was an error on their end.

I now have 3 points of confirmation: 1- my previous win which was confiscated ... 2 my current win and 3 the other active complaint against them ... This is no longer a coincidence.

I have always been someone who starts by giving the benefit of the doubt, prior to making any other accusations, so I will stand by the title of this complaint and ask Zenbetting casino to solve their glitch and restore my balance.

I have screenshots of the support tickets as well as the document the casino sent me which I can provide AskGamblers with if requested.
Status solved Resolvido