immo2014

My guess they was thinking I am a highroller and try to lure me with free money to play and deposit more when I did win by chance they played all tricks to avoid playing out winnings just lol for any serious casino

vipspel broke all of it terms in was cheating in background my wager and "type" of bonus I was playing when I was about to win they just reset my account very very bad from vipspel

I guess you think its a "free non deposit coin bonus" then but this bonus has no 7 days void rule so basically your are just wrong

hi Afi4wins 1) yes 2) yes 3) yes I didnt ask now I was asked about the €250 it was just added to my account. Technical it was neither a "deposit bonus nor a no deposit bonus" *keep in mind the 7 days void rule is only valid in deposit bonus 4) I got the €250 extra money after I requested the withdraw so I waited until the withdraw was completed to avoid compications 5) I asked vipsteal about wager at that time multiple times and it was only about 1x (got €162.5 as actual wager left) 6) it would be a horror when vipspel is changing wager amounts secret while player are spinning slots (I got no message about changed wager or error or anything) vipspeal was breaking near all of its terms to avoid paying out winnings just for info support asked me in the beginning after I deposited €500 cash if I want a reload dep0osit bonus which I refused. At this point I just want to wager once and withdraw

1) deposited cash €500 and didnt want to play at vipspel because I had a bad feeling -> withdraw 2) vipspel "you cant withdraw your cash you must at least wager once " 3) pff so I did wager my €500 once and hit the withdraw button 4) everything was approved and confirmed and I was wating that my withdraw was completed 5) got a mail "sory to hear that (I complained at vipspel a lot that I was unappy about the service there), we added you €250" from vipspel support 6) hmm I better dont touch vipspel until my €500 are on my bank account 7) ok €500 are on my bank account let see what I have on vipspel oh €250 bonus money nice with just €250 wager oh more nice 8.5) so my wager ist just €162.5 now lets make a few spins more 9) so my wager is done but hey why my €300 is still displayed as bonus and not cash money 10) hey support whats my wager 12) vipspel "you have €22.000 wager now , enjoy the day" 13) me ??????????? 14) wow I have €3100 funds now but now its gone after my last spin ???? 15) vipspel "after 7 days we delete all funds when wager is not finished" (taken from deposit bonus terms which I never had) 16) me: wtf ? lol?

vipspel support ignored when I told them I finsihed wager and they gave me an extra wager from heaven as you saw from mails my €500 deposit was cash with wager 1x

I was feeling very bad about vipspel right after deposit so I want to withdraw and dont play anymore but they insited of wagering once my deposit no I was only surprised why they added me a 90x wager after I finished wager maybe they was thinking I am a highroller and gave me €250 later to lure me to play more when they saw I was winning then simply removed my funds this is so lol as it just sounds

Where does it say that the 250 came with a 1x wager? -------- I asked 2 times chat for wager status was €250 , €160 then zero Hello Olaf! Your actual wager amount is 162.2 EUR. In case of any questions feel free to contact us. Best Regards. Your Support Representative Ticket Details Ticket ID: LBG-254-20884 Department: VipSpel Type: Issue Status: Closed then it jumped to €22000 which is wager 90x in the beginning I deposited €500 and want to withdraw without playing but they refused as I must wager once Dear Kelly, Please be informed that your withdrawal was rejected due to breach of our terms and conditions. Be aware that all real money deposits must be wagered 1 time before a withdrawal can be made. For example, if you deposit €20 you must make €20 worth of wagers before a withdrawal can be requested. VipSpel reserves the right to charge a 10% fee in case the player requests a withdrawal without a member account turnover that is equal or more than the amount of funds deposited. Please refer to a paragraph 7.1.1: <LINK REMOVED> If case you might have any questions, feel free to contact us simply by replying to this email. With best regards, VipSpel Payments Department Ticket Details Ticket ID: MXC-335-31240 Department: VipSpel KYC Type: Issue Status: Closed Priority: Normal

maybe its not clear at all 1) deposited €500 cash no bonus with wager 1x for withdrawd 2) finished 1x wager and did withdraw which was approved 3) vipspel support sent me mail like "treated you bad , we are sory we added you €250 funds) 4) waited until €500 withdrawel was completed 5) account was then €250 bonus with wager 1x (€250) 6) finished wagwer again then wager was out of nowhere €22.0000 7) when I was €3100 funds they reset my bonus account out of nowhere oh yes vipspel is fine no reason to complain LOL

I had €500 deposited without bonus with 1x wager to withdraw it then online support added me €250 funds told ya 10x times that vipspel played foul play with me in vipspel ech deposit even without bonus has wager 1x

There is no Martingale system period (its simple math) every casino which is hiding should be blacklisted

first I must say that I have lots of money and dont care if I win or not so I just play for fun and try to play smart I tried nearly all casinos here listed on askgambler which offered 200% welcome bonus because I was thinking that 200% is fair some casinos which are virtual wager 1x I play with any kind of bonus from 50% to 100% like stargames which is best of all casinos according to bonus play as a general rule is play only when you get a 200% bonus and play fast with maxbet to try to get a megawin or rip fast after all I am about €2000-3000 positiv result which is pretty good I dont care to much about licence malta/curucau/UK overall I was treated fair execpt 2 times after I had a nice hit on spinstation with welcome bonus they accused me of unfair bonus abuse and locked me out of their group after paying out the winnings the very low experince was vipspel which did everything wrong and bogus which is possible to avoid paying out winnings the most complex bonus play i saw was with these casinos with high 300%-400% bonus , sticky bonus , low wager , max cashout as these bonus are difficult to play correctly as a general rule I only play welcome bonus which is kind of low limited like €200 and not these €3000 deposit welcome bonus etc I only play games which I know and there is database for winnings rtp like netent as a general rule play only casino with working online chat and make sure verify the terms with chat BEFORE depost or at least before making the first spin ask for % bonus (play only with 200% or better) ask for wager requirement (dont play with insane wager) ask for timelimit to finish wager (dont play when there is a time limit) ask for maxbet (dont play when maxbet is lower then €5) ask for maxcashout (adjust your strategy when there is a maxcashout) ask for bonus sticky or cashable (sticky bonus has usually much lower wager and more %) ask for bonus code you need to enter when deposit (some bonus do need a promotion code) ask for gamelimit when play with bonus funds check gamedatabase for highest rtp games on allowed bonus game group never play without bonus when online chat is not ready or cant answer you then simlyl dont play and go to next casino when you play according to my rules you will lose like no money and maybe win some and have lots of fun and no reason to complain about cashouts

casino bordeaux is fair just play according to rules maxbet is pretty high remember that the 400% bonus is sticky and get removed after your wager is completed/cashout for me I did a 200 deposit and a 1400 cashout playing is not easy as max cashout is limited to 10x deposit so dont play for megabig win you must aim for €2800 funds after finishing wager to cashout €2k

well I didnt use a deposit bonus and the general bonus terms have no time limit TERMS THAT APPLY TO ALL PROMOTIONSAll bonus launch and expiration times are in GMT. If bonus balance is lost, cancelled by a player himself or forfeited, all resulting profits from unfinished game rounds that were started during a bonus play, if there are such, may be void prior to withdrawal; All deposit bonuses are connected to deposits that trigger them. If player participates in deposit bonus campaign and has an active bonus on their account, he agrees to use real money only on the same product (main menu tab). If player triggers a bonus with a deposit to one of the products yet uses deposited funds on other product, he agrees that bonus and all winnings from it may be void; All VIPSpel offers are limited to one per person, family, household address, email address, telephone number and shared computer; VIPSpel maintains a strict policy of only one account per customer and use internal security systems to identify such. To avoid abuse VIPSpel reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to refuse to provide bonuses in case there is any suspicion that player may hold multiple accounts; VIPSpel and/or its authorized agents may, in their sole discretion, limit the eligibility of customers or any one customer to participate in the Promotion, and restrict the eligibility of any group or category of customers to participate in the Promotion; Bonus money successfully wagered in section where bonus was used, must be requested for withdrawal or used only in the same section. Otherwise all successfully wagered bonus funds may be voided. Winnings from any bonus/es, triggered by deposit, are limited to a deposited amount multiplied by 20; VIPSpel reserves the right to review transaction records and logs at anytime, for any reason whatsoever. If, upon such review, it appears that player/s are participating in strategies that the casino in its sole discretion deems to be abusive, VIPSpel reserves the right to revoke the entitlement of such player to the promotion; Should the player wish to make a withdrawal or a transfer whilst any bonuses are active on the account, the bonus and all winnings from that bonus will be removed from the account; VIPSpel reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to withdraw bonuses and resulting profits and keep deposits to cover any losses if any term of the promotion is breached; VIPSpel reserves the right to change the terms and conditions of this offer at any time and it is your responsibility to periodically check here for changes and updates; Bonuses are at the sole discretion of VIPSpel, and may be canceled or expired at any time; In the event of a dispute, all decisions made by the casino will be final; Any bonus terms & conditions are subject at all times to VIPSpel Terms and Conditions; The deposit values required to trigger bonus or free spins as well as amounts of bonuses shown in € (EURO) are also applicable to £ (UK POUNDS) $ (US DOLLAR) CAD, NZD and AUD. For accounts held in NOK, SEK and DKK both are multiplied by 10; The original text of these Promotional Terms and Conditions is in English. Should there be any discrepancies in the translations of the terms and conditions, the original English version will prevail. vipspel was a complete joke to give me a new 90x wager after a finished wager and drop me a time limit out of nowhere when a casino gives you a new wager after you finished a wager I dont expect askgambler to tell me something like read terms before deposit etc vipspel is doing what they want to avoid paying winnings and I expect askgambler to warn other people so they dont get burned too

7 days is not reasonable because when you deposit a big amount your will be virtual unable to finish your wager to cut player time to finish player wager is unfair and should lead to blacklist in european consumer law any paid bonus/coupon must be valid for 3 years dont forget vipspel dont give the player any possibilty to check for wager or time limit a player simply cant know when time is over