Why do some people hate gambling of any type?

[uajmasx]

My dad used to take me to casinos to eat at the buffets when I was a kid. He always used to say to me…

“Do you see all these lights? How do you think they afford to keep them on?”

The house always wins in the long run, that's the way the odds work. If it didn't, no one would build casinos.

Habitual gamblers are losers. They selectively remember their wins, and don't realize they have thrown much more away chasing that feeling.

If they kept a careful log of how much they gambled versus how much they won, they wouldn't keep gambling.

Some people get into gambling to an extent that damages their lives and the lives of their families.

I expect that's one of the more common reasons for hate.

With such an experience it is often difficult for people to see gabling as a letimate source of income.

 

But I have come to realise that life itself is gambling. Just leaving your house to your office is a gamble, you don't know for sure if you'll reach your office. but Thanks to certain circumstance and maybe faith, you leave anyway.

The irony is when people who hate casinos, then to forex trading, stock trading, and crytocurrency trading as an alternative way to make money. To add, there are many applications that generate signals online for trading to facilitate trading to all. But this is in no way different from what a lot people think they hate.

Ignorance is the cause of world disorder!

[cocopop3011]

21 hours ago, uajmasx said:

My dad used to take me to casinos to eat at the buffets when I was a kid. He always used to say to me…

“Do you see all these lights? How do you think they afford to keep them on?”

The house always wins in the long run, that's the way the odds work. If it didn't, no one would build casinos.

Habitual gamblers are losers. They selectively remember their wins, and don't realize they have thrown much more away chasing that feeling.

If they kept a careful log of how much they gambled versus how much they won, they wouldn't keep gambling.

Some people get into gambling to an extent that damages their lives and the lives of their families.

I expect that's one of the more common reasons for hate.

With such an experience it is often difficult for people to see gabling as a letimate source of income.

 

But I have come to realise that life itself is gambling. Just leaving your house to your office is a gamble, you don't know for sure if you'll reach your office. but Thanks to certain circumstance and maybe faith, you leave anyway.

The irony is when people who hate casinos, then to forex trading, stock trading, and crytocurrency trading as an alternative way to make money. To add, there are many applications that generate signals online for trading to facilitate trading to all. But this is in no way different from what a lot people think they hate.

Ignorance is the cause of world disorder!

Hi and welcome to the forum, a deep post this evening - I like it! 

I guess your dad was right, the house does always win in the end. Gambling can be fun but if there's ever time it no longer becomes fun that should be your que to stop. Unfortuantely, by this point some people can't stop and yes absolutely it can ruin lives, split up marriages. 

I don't think this industry will ever be "for everyone" and I think gambling will always be lets say... "frowned upon" and by that I mean - I can’t remember the last time I opened Facebook and Instagram and seen someone post photos of them going to a casino but every day I see pictures of people going out drinking. Why? Because  gambling has always had this big cloud that surrounds it for some reason. Play within your means and there's no reason to hate it at all. 

I'm guilty of it myself. How many of my friends and family do I tell - "oh I had a mega good gambing session last night on slots" - NONE! How many would I say "Had a mega good night last night got so drunk!" - probably loads. Perception being the issue here. 

Just my opinon on this of course - neither right or wrong.

[Afi4wins]

We've all heard the saying 'money is the root of all evil', and we also know that greed can be a very destructive force, a satanic force even. Gambling encompasses both money and greed, hence it should be hated, but does everyone hate it? No way!!!

We humans are of varying kinds. There are non-drinkers, non-smokers, non-gamblers, and even non-liars, but these angelic humans exist in very small numbers...most other humans are of the opposite kind. That's how life is with us. Demonic influences abound, demonic followers in hordes...and they always outnumber the good ones!

But of course, everything in life can be balanced off, if we take the time and effort to do it. Gambling is so much fun, so much thrilling, and so damn blardy exciting too, but is as destructive as an erupting volcano. If you don't run away from the eruption, you face its destructive consequences.

In short, I've been playing my slot games for donkey years. I've been through the eruptions, but have managed to escape in time a number of times. Nowadays, I take a smoking volcano as a sign of danger, but as long as it isn't smoking, I'd be contented to go on with my slotting...but more of an undying hobby than an addiction! 

[pinnit2015]

Gambling has never been based upon rationality; if you wanted to guarantee a return on your money you'd opt for a low risk, low return investment. But that's never what it's been about.

People have it in their crosshairs for a number of reasons: from the sore losers who have lost a lot/everything and witnessed the destructive effects, it's understandable: probably the same thinking as those who've witnessed the more physical effects of smoking on people they know. Then the politicians piggybacking on this for their own personal agendas. 

The industry is being chased  with the same agenda driven vigour as the Tobacco Industry was; from personal abdication of responsibility (which seems to be the society norm now: it ain't me Guv'nor, it's someone else's fault), through to the moral crusaders who want to rid the world of all the Devil's temptation. But hey, we have the morally enlightened these days trolling Twitter feeds from 2011 to cherry pick musings to hammer people with in 2021, so it's not surprising. 

  

[cocopop3011]

Love this topic! Topic of the month

[ValDes]

IMHO: 

Reason #1: Cause they had/have someone within their closest circle who's suffering from problem gambling. Seeing a beloved one going down the slippery slope of problem gambling could be a massive pain! Cannot imagine such a person feeling anything else but pure hate to any kind/shape/form of gambling...  

Reason #2: Simple misunderstanding of the sins nature. Everyone nowadays is a sinner, the thing is some are still refusing to admit it. (Yeah, talking about all of you drug-, sex-, alcohol-, work- and whatnot-addicted people out there! )  And no one is screaming louder against the other sinners than the sinner him/herself, right?!

[Blackjax]

I dont think it's right to frame the sentence that way. To say that people hate gambling would not be appropriate. In my opinion the maximum amount of hate towards 'gambling' is because of the gambling industry and the way it operates. The way the stockmarket operates is quite a clear example of how just by changing a few words here and there you can come up with a profession similar to gambling but far more acceptable.  

From the gambling world I would like to mention the way Poker is going. I know it is skill based but the way the Poker industry has stood out from the gambling world and managed to earn decent amount of respect in the past 20 years is quite remarkable.

[pinnit2015]

Good point re Poker: it's not IMO seen as murky as say the slot based gambling. Possibly perception as well: playing at a Poker Table, particularly at Land based, is seen as being more controlled than say sweating buckets at the one arm bandits which seems to invoke a perception of greater depravity.  Though, obviously to compare the two has various nuances such as the increased dopamine hit that slots generate etc. 

You tell people you're playing Poker on a Friday and it's seen more as a hobby, you tell folk ur slotting and u can see the raised eyebrows on some folk. 

As for hate - kinda agree but if you see some of the minutes from the meetings in the UK regarding reforming the laws, you see some of the consultation responses from families/people and it is genuine hatred. Hatred fulled by self-loathing in many cases but there nonetheless. 

Then some of the politicians take jobs on the board of the casinos they set out to maim 

Maybe they should remake the ***** addict film Shame (terrible film by the way) - you could just film me walking around London, on trains and buses, punching the walls  and crying as i fail to land the D or getting 10x when i do. Hitting rock bottom when i break into BTG's Sydney's office and start pulling the drawers out in search of the Golden Nugget. 

[Blackjax]

What does the OP think about our opinions?

[ValDes]

On 10/14/2021 at 4:47 PM, Blackjax said:

What does the OP think about our opinions?

Dunno, but let's ping @uajmasx and check out.  

[BillyDuke1989]

In my opinion, the main reason is the syndrome of over-expectations from the casino. Many newcomers, probably under the influence of movies or TV series, believe that gambling will make them millionaires and do not know how to take defeats. They are sure that only some absurd obstacles prevent it and constantly repeat their own mistakes again and again, without drawing any conclusions from their bad experience. Read an interesting theory about it:

The Hungarian psychoanalyst Sandor Ferenczy put forward an explanation that has come to be called the "hypothesis of infantile omnipotence." Ferenczy thought that the very small child did not know about his helplessness. Lying in a crib, he controls the behavior of adults by commanding them to feed, change and entertain a little tyrant. With time, as the child learns to walk, falls and bruises, the illusion of omnipotence begins to dissipate. Most of us lose our sense of omnipotence by the age of 6 years. But from time to time it comes back to life - for example, during a game when a player falls into the illusion that he can guess the numbers that must fall. Anyone who has ever played in a casino or a stock exchange knows this feeling of absolute confidence, which is an echo of infantile omnipotence.

[Stephens]

I loved to play online games from childhood onwards, still now I playing online games and I love to win the game.  <SNIP>  we can get many ideas about winning a game.

Edited October 21, 2021 by cocopop3011
Link removed, please stick to forum rules.

[marrymosss]

My friend doesn't like to play all kinds of games at all. She says that is simply not interested for her and does not want to waste her time on unnecessary things. 

[Fiekie247]

Despite the facts regarding gambling of any type and opinions.

- Everyone needs to ask themselves - What do I get out of gambling, why am I gambling or at least know why they doing it...

For me personally - Gambling is a hobby which I enjoy, whether I win or lose but at the same time - The fun and excitement out of it - I enjoy it - If I win big that is a plus,

So, my main focus for gambling is not to make money or to go with intention to hit the home run to quit my job or to become rich. I just want to gamble to relax, have fun and with the hopes of winning something, while maintaining a healthy monthly gambling budget.

Once my monthly budget had been reached (I lost it all), I stop period! If I win big I sometimes stop for a few weeks as well. I also think setting a fix gambling budget and managing it well is a big factor for me as well.

[cocopop3011]

5 hours ago, Fiekie247 said:

Despite the facts regarding gambling of any type and opinions.

- Everyone needs to ask themselves - What do I get out of gambling, why am I gambling or at least know why they doing it...

For me personally - Gambling is a hobby which I enjoy, whether I win or lose but at the same time - The fun and excitement out of it - I enjoy it - If I Win Big that is a plus,

So, my main focus for gambling is not to make money or to go with intention to hit the home run to quit my job or to become rich. I just want to gamble to relax, have fun and with the hopes of winning something, while maintaining a healthy monthly gambling budget.

Once my monthly budget had been reached (I Lost it all), I stop period! If I win big I sometimes stop for a few weeks as well. I also think setting a fix gambling budget and managing it well is a big factor for me as well.

Yep I think this is the  perfect attitude to have and mine is the same.

Going back 10-ish years I went into a dark place with gambling, it took over my life.  Deposit after deposit, chasing win after win, my life revolved around it. Until I knew it was time to take a break, I even disapperared from AG (this was before my mod days) luckily I was able to come back with control. Many can't do this and this is why I have total empathy for those struggling with this addiction. There's a very fine line I think  

 

[Flatzem]

23 hours ago, cocopop3011 said:

Yep I think this is the  perfect attitude to have and mine is the same.

Going back 10-ish years I went into a dark place with gambling, it took over my life.  Deposit after deposit, chasing win after win, my life revolved around it. Until I knew it was time to take a break, I even disappeared from AG (this was before my mod days) luckily I was able to come back with control. Many can't do this and this is why I have total empathy for those struggling with this addiction. There's a very fine line I think  

 

how big did your bets get per spin?

[cristinaragland56]

I think that many people do not like gambling due to the fact that can quickly lose money. I often noticed inexperienced players at the gaming table who made big bets in the hope of winning luck. 

[cocopop3011]

2 hours ago, cristinaragland56 said:

I think that many people do not like gambling due to the fact that can quickly lose money. I often noticed inexperienced players at the gaming table who made big bets in the hope of winning luck. 

Yep, unfortunatley, I think a lot of players go in blind with the assumtion they're going to win because maybe they've watched others win or read about wins but in reality we should all be prepared to lose.

[Olive00]

You have to be very careful with gambling. It may be fun at first, but if you treat it irresponsibly, it can end badly. Therefore, I believe that you should not start playing casinos without willpower.

[cocopop3011]

On 11/15/2021 at 12:15 PM, Olive00 said:

You have to be very careful with gambling. It may be fun at first, but if you treat it irresponsibly, it can end badly. Therefore, I believe that you should not start playing casinos without willpower.

Thank you for your input! Welcome to the forum by the way.