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Dear gamblers,

 

 

Never play netent software believe me the biggest fraud ever. I play all netent casinos on the list. All of them i used the welcomebonus 100% or 150% and some casinos giving 200%. You can believe me or not but in all 37 casinos not once i make a withdraw and only 2 times i completed the wagering. For exampe the game starbust is unbelievable. Its normal to get more than 50 spins not one price. Of course if you play 1 euro each spin you wil get enough but when you wil go higher than 5 euro each bet nothing completly nothing!!!!! In the fun mode of course two stars or three stars all the time but with real money almost never three stars and sometimes two stars with never a high symbol next to it. Other thing when you log out and start again two hours later alwaysssssssssss everything gone.

 

Every time nothing anymore!!!!!!!!! Its feels like some alarm bells by the casino are on tilt when you have some balance in your account. How is it possible that when you get finally a good price that alwaysssssssss the first 50 spins give nothing day in day out. The most funny part is that when you used auto spin the first and the last ten spins giving nothing or maybe a few bucks. Let me tell you that i deposit always 200 euro and can play with 400 totally. I start with 2 euro and when i wil go under 200 euro i wil bet 1 euro each spin. Of course on 1 euro each spin you get plenty of stars but on 2 euro is more terrible and every euro higher each spin it wil be more and more terrible.

 

How can it be possible if you play auto spin and play 100 spins you must be really happt if you get 50% back. I play almost every day because i make good money with my job but to bring so much money every time with completly nothing is to sick for words. Sotware like playtech is 10 times better but with netent you can keep the bonus money and finally i understand that because its mission impossible to win on that cheating software. Of course some players would tell me that netent is the best ever and they win money but tell than aslo that you deposit 25 euro and win 200 euro and make a withdraw. I try to win a minimum of 1500 euro what is impossible to do.

 

Not one game on netent can give 30 minutes good money. Always when finally you wil get some good prizes end of story and everythging wil be gone. By playtech i learn that when some slot game giving good you must raise your bet only by netent its the other way. Worldleader in what???? Yes cheating and manipulating . Games like reel rush go bananas attraction space wars are to sick for words!!!!!!!!!! When i complaining on the chat in every netent bull ***** casino always the same answers standard from the book. You are unlucky!!!!!!!!!!! Really so how is it possible that i make a lot of withdraws on playtech and microgaming softare and never on netent. For example i deposit almost every day.

 

 

 

The last thing what i want to inform you all play never on prime slots and karamba because that told me after more than 6.000 euro to deposit that all netent games counting 50% for the wagering because netent games giving a lot of money What a sick joke was that. Of course some people wil never believe me but my username that i used by all netent casinos was nicden and i lose in all netent casinos more than 30.000 euro with again not once a withdraw what i try which game always the same program. If you are happy with for example 250 euro to win netent can be great but to win big mission impossible. And the last part is how can people tell that netent is so beautiful and i mean the games. Its look like ***** if you see the games from playtech. I hope to warn some gamblers

never to play netent and when you wil try that software be happy if you win 200 euro and make a withdraw believe me. Think never that you can make big money on high bets on netent games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mission impossible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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friend at the beginning of december i had a great luck ,the last one month and a half i lost around 30 deposits for some reason i can not hit anything ,is like all casino has reduce their pay outs (i do not think thats the case)as far as starbust i am extremly unluky my self the last one and half month ,is the first slot i play usually and i could noy hit anything good

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Yep i agree with the starburst game, You got to ask yourself why so many casinos offer it as a FS offer on sign up and why they give you so many spins on it...Well Thats because its the S***est game going and the casinos know they have no far of anyone winning anything.

 

So poor doesnt even deserve to be rated

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@nicden,

 

The topic title has been edited and the topic itself has been moved to a proper location. Avoid using insults when posting next time. 

 

As for your 'observations' stated above, I don't even intend to comment as they are absolute rubbish. Just a quick look across these two topics below is more than enough to prove you totally wrong. 

 

Show time - let's see your winner screenshots!

 

My last withdrawal was...

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Its the casinos themselves that have som sort of algorytem or something like that to adjust so you get the 95-98% RTP as advertised but you can only win when they allow it. Belive me i have played for years and something has changed the past couple of years.

 

I have lost for a week straight at videoslots casino. Playing Netent,microgaming,playngo and so on. When nothing wants to pay all games go dead, when they want you to win every game pays. This is true for all casinos. But i never,ever seen a ***** run like i have had this past week.

 

Losing over 3000 euros betting on average 1 euro a spin sometimes less. I have according to their support since i opened my account wagered over 100 000 euros with a 97.5 RTP and during that my very best win was 1000x bet on playboy. Immortal romance has given me 3 or 4 bonus rounds the last 3 days paying no more than 20 x bet. 

 

Dead or Alive was dead like crazy, every bonus round just total *****. How can one lose every day for 6 days straight? 500-700 each day? Unbelivable.

 

And this has happended to me at other casinos aswell, betat and guts. Its like they pull the swicth on you. Most places if you keep depositing eventually you will win close to or sligtley more back in the end. But some places just let you lose and lose and lose. If they value their customers they should really let people win sometimes. Its not Netent or microgaming its the casinos themselves and the software providers, im sure there is a universal backend software that they can adjust each accounts payout.

 

You can tell me im wrong its a RNG well, why do every game behave the same way when it goes dead at a certain casino? If the games are independent of each other this should not happen every single time.

 

And the activity feed at videoslots are a total joke, i have for the last 6 days seen the same name win on average 1-3000 euros every 5 minuttes or so. He is apparantley the only person winning there. I play dead or alive and change game two minutes later this person wins 1900 euros on that game.... Total joke. And i promise you this goes for all casinos... Every last one. Now that i mentioned their name and made these claims im sure my next deposite will be even worse.

 

Im waiting on my cashback the next two weeks if i dont win anything fro that im done playing all together. No one has this amount of bad luck.

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Its the casinos themselves that have som sort of algorytem or something like that to adjust so you get the 95-98% RTP as advertised but you can only win when they allow it. Belive me i have played for years and something has changed the past couple of years.

 

And this has happended to me at other casinos aswell, betat and guts. Its like they pull the swicth on you. Most places if you keep depositing eventually you will win close to or sligtley more back in the end. But some places just let you lose and lose and lose. If they value their customers they should really let people win sometimes. Its not Netent or microgaming its the casinos themselves and the software providers, im sure there is a universal backend software that they can adjust each accounts payout.

 

This, quite simply, is not the case as any sufficiently experienced player can attest to . We have zero control over the return of the games and any sort of 'switches' which allow (or prevent) a player from winning.

Noone likes a bad run of luck, but I'm afraid that's simply all it is.

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This, quite simply, is not the case as any sufficiently experienced player can attest to . We have zero control over the return of the games and any sort of 'switches' which allow (or prevent) a player from winning.

Noone likes a bad run of luck, but I'm afraid that's simply all it is.

hello friend is their a different link i can use for bet at casino.

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You should be able to access the site through one of the AG links here.

http://www.askgamblers.com/casino/betat-casino-review-r4310

 

If you're still experiencing problems, be sure to let me know.

Good luck!

hahahaha,if i could access with the link that ask gamblers have  i would already play.i can not access it with that link,,the problem is that some online casinos are block from internet providers in cyprus,i can access most of them but not bet at casino

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Seems to me you are just a sore loser nicden! If you lost thousands of euros, the only one to blame is yourself.

if you play at online casinos i am sure that you also lost thousands lol

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Man, I am a stingy player in online casinos since 2011. I do not have your money to play (in fact my state oficial income here where I am is a bit less than 150 USD/month). However I have played (just on no depost bonuses and I won). Not too much, not many times but I won! Even recently playing Alice in Wonderland in WinADay casino I won two times.

 

 If I was to have your money I know were to go and play. Let me sell you a tip. Maybe after winning you will will thank me for this and return 10% of the win. Go to MrGreen. Or about any other MG good casino. Play ON VIRTUAL money the "Tomb Raider II (Secret of the sword)" until you enter the bonus (you need to light up on each line a laser). Playing at the minimum bet you need for this like 15-45 Euro. This bonus game (when you look for the sword pieces in 5 different locations) pay thousands of Euros in 2 out of 3 casinos. This game is my gavorite and I play it (on virtual money) for years now. I have won not once but many times.

 If you win on virtual money play it on real money. You are telling here you can afford to lose 30 Euros.

 Thenk come here back and thank me.

See you.

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The creator of this post have a great point. Net Ent slots are rigged. Try to play multitask slots after a withdrawal. About 10-20 slots. The bonus games come up in the same situation when the slots go from cold to warm. Dosnt matter if you play high variance games or low variance its all personal.

 

But after a withdrawal it is IMPOSSIBLE to win. I have played on over 40 Net Ent casinos over the past years. And something changed around 2012. My guess is that the algoritm have been changed and the software provider is given more options to handle user information.

 

And to use the user information in away to be able to create treshholds of winning and loosing streaks. In that way they can have an explosive market since the looser always stay when the treshold changes. Small casino owners also have the chance to easy get costumers who stays. You will always be able to win small amount of cash but never go big. But the smart people who always make withdrawals have no chance. It will become a loop of loosing withdrawals. 

 

I have never hit a decent hit ever in my life on Net Ent. I played for weeks on serveral laptops at home. But i always withdrawal so im close to latest deposit all the time. So nowdays im just testing this out and its still happening. I'm very confused no one have sued the software provider. I have not lost so much money on casino but had small winnings. 

 

I'm not angry or anything but this happends all the time! If u make a withdrawal change casino instantly and never come back trust me. You always accept that the software provider can have access to personal information when u register at a casino.

 

Net Ent slots are PRNG its shown by ITech Labs 

 

Good thread!

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The creator of this post have a great point. Net Ent slots are rigged. Try to play multitask slots after a withdrawal. About 10-20 slots. The bonus games come up in the same situation when the slots go from cold to warm. Dosnt matter if you play high variance games or low variance its all personal.

 

But after a withdrawal it is IMPOSSIBLE to win. I have played on over 40 Net Ent casinos over the past years. And something changed around 2012. My guess is that the algoritm have been changed and the software provider is given more options to handle user information.

 

And to use the user information in away to be able to create treshholds of winning and loosing streaks. In that way they can have an explosive market since the looser always stay when the treshold changes. Small casino owners also have the chance to easy get costumers who stays. You will always be able to win small amount of cash but never go big. But the smart people who always make withdrawals have no chance. It will become a loop of loosing withdrawals. 

 

I have never hit a decent hit ever in my life on Net Ent. I played for weeks on serveral laptops at home. But i always withdrawal so im close to latest deposit all the time. So nowdays im just testing this out and its still happening. I'm very confused no one have sued the software provider. I have not lost so much money on casino but had small winnings. 

 

I'm not angry or anything but this happends all the time! If u make a withdrawal change casino instantly and never come back trust me. You always accept that the software provider can have access to personal information when u register at a casino.

 

Net Ent slots are PRNG its shown by ITech Labs 

 

Good thread!

 

I agree with this. Its no way these games are random. Im getting so tired of online casinos its totally disquesting how you can lose, and lose and never win. But when you do win as you say you can forget ever winning in that casino ever again.

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Its funny how fore example i have been losing fore 3 weeks straight several thousands of euros. Can not win anywhere. But i get sessions with 95%+ RTP so the casinos say oh well but you had decent winnings. I try to explain that everthing under 100% is losses but they dont seam to think so.

 

Im sick to my stomach from net ent and microgaming. I dont even think each game has an individual RTP its most likley the casinos themselves that controll payouts across a user profile not a game!

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I have lost so much money to net ent, and latley i lose and lose and lose... Sometimes i just want to stopp playing this ***** but i cant!! I guess im addicted. Like now losing 2-3000 euros in two weeks im broke... I dont know what to do. Ofcourse its my fault for playing but alteast i can be offered a fair game. Swear sometime i just want to kill myself

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I may be not right, but in my opinion, luckyloser, you should take a break from gambling. In the last month I've only seen you writing frustrated posts. In my opinion, in gambling you can win or lose, it is always a risk, no one has ever promissed you wins and if gambling makes you frustrated and as you mention "Like now losing 2-3000 euros in two weeks im broke. " and "Swear sometime i just want to kill myself" ,  I think you should stop for a while, until you can see this clearly and objective again. There are few other threads that might help you, if you think you have an addiction. Hope everything will get better, wish you luck.

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I have lost so much money to net ent, and latley i lose and lose and lose... Sometimes i just want to stopp playing this ***** but i cant!! I guess im addicted. Like now losing 2-3000 euros in two weeks im broke... I dont know what to do. Ofcourse its my fault for playing but alteast i can be offered a fair game. Swear sometime i just want to kill myself

 

 

I may be not right, but in my opinion, luckyloser, you should take a break from gambling. In the last month I've only seen you writing frustrated posts. In my opinion, in gambling you can win or lose, it is always a risk, no one has ever promissed you wins and if gambling makes you frustrated and as you mention "Like now losing 2-3000 euros in two weeks im broke. " and "Swear sometime i just want to kill myself" ,  I think you should stop for a while, until you can see this clearly and objective again. There are few other threads that might help you, if you think you have an addiction. Hope everything will get better, wish you luck.

 

Sorry to say that, but I am totally agree with blondie. Man, you should take a break from gambling asap. It has nothing to do with your suspicions if NetEnt or MG are rigged or not any more, it is far more dangerous than you might think it is. Please, read this guide, it will take only 5 minutes.

 

SOS, I am addicted to gambling - what to do?

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Its the casinos themselves that have som sort of algorytem or something like that to adjust so you get the 95-98% RTP as advertised but you can only win when they allow it. Belive me i have played for years and something has changed the past couple of years.

And this has happended to me at other casinos aswell, betat and guts. Its like they pull the swicth on you. Most places if you keep depositing eventually you will win close to or sligtley more back in the end. But some places just let you lose and lose and lose. If they value their customers they should really let people win sometimes. Its not Netent or microgaming its the casinos themselves and the software providers, im sure there is a universal backend software that they can adjust each accounts payout.

 

 

This, quite simply, is not the case as any sufficiently experienced player can attest to . We have zero control over the return of the games and any sort of 'switches' which allow (or prevent) a player from winning.

Noone likes a bad run of luck, but I'm afraid that's simply all it is.

 

I do not believe nor trust you, BETATCasino. I agree with luckyloser about the possible universal backened software.

 

I played on more then 30 casino's online. But the one I have the most suspicions of is you BETATCasino.

 

An example would be when I played with a balance of 80 euro in your casino's slot game 'Lost Island'. I placed bets of 1 euro untill I lost everything. Of all the bets I placed on this game, I had 5 maybe 6 wins and almost no wild appeared at all in all the spins I made, and when they did it never resulted in a win. Furthermore, not even once did I get 2 scatters for a chance to win the free spin bonus off all the spins I made in this game! And this happenens alot when I choose to play here.

 

It's obvious you reply and ralk about having zero control and bad luck because otherwise bad things would happen not only to your casino but you would drag all the other casino's into trouble as well.

 

Oh and not to forget to mention you ignored my emails everytime from the day I send you my verification documents. Very suspicious!

 

Who ever read this, I highly recommend you whatever they reply, from my experience: stay away from BETATCasino.

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I do not believe nor trust you, BETATCasino. I agree with luckyloser about the possible universal backened software.

 

I played on more then 30 casino's online. But the one I have the most suspicions of is you BETATCasino.

 

An example would be when I played with a balance of 80 euro in your casino's slot game 'Lost Island'. I placed bets of 1 euro untill I lost everything. Of all the bets I placed on this game, I had 5 maybe 6 wins and almost no wild appeared at all in all the spins I made, and when they did it never resulted in a win. Furthermore, not even once did I get 2 scatters for a chance to win the free spin bonus off all the spins I made in this game! And this happenens alot when I choose to play here.

 

It's obvious you reply and ralk about having zero control and bad luck because otherwise bad things would happen not only to your casino but you would drag all the other casino's into trouble as well.

 

Oh and not to forget to mention you ignored my emails everytime from the day I send you my verification documents. Very suspicious!

 

Who ever read this, I highly recommend you whatever they reply, from my experience: stay away from BETATCasino.

 

I agree with you i have also lost about 3-4000 euros at betat and never been in a poseition where i could cash out and be even or in proffit. In fact i think i never had my balane over 1000 euros once. Just endless sick losses

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I do not believe nor trust you, BETATCasino. I agree with luckyloser about the possible universal backened software.

 

I played on more then 30 casino's online. But the one I have the most suspicions of is you BETATCasino.

 

An example would be when I played with a balance of 80 euro in your casino's slot game 'Lost Island'. I placed bets of 1 euro untill I lost everything. Of all the bets I placed on this game, I had 5 maybe 6 wins and almost no wild appeared at all in all the spins I made, and when they did it never resulted in a win. Furthermore, not even once did I get 2 scatters for a chance to win the free spin bonus off all the spins I made in this game! And this happenens alot when I choose to play here.

 

It's obvious you reply and ralk about having zero control and bad luck because otherwise bad things would happen not only to your casino but you would drag all the other casino's into trouble as well.

 

Oh and not to forget to mention you ignored my emails everytime from the day I send you my verification documents. Very suspicious!

 

Who ever read this, I highly recommend you whatever they reply, from my experience: stay away from BETATCasino.

 

Hmm, allow me to clarify a couple of important things here...

 

1. I believe you are making a huge mistake when considering the friendly environment of our forum and the amazing tolerance which we grant to our forum members as an option for players like you coming out of nowhere and trying to use the forum for their personal vendetta with an online casino. Arguments is the key word when we consider and judge any online brand! 

 

2. BetAT Casino was the first casino which has been certified with AskGamblers Certificate Of Trust! And we do not give away our certificates just like that. A quick check at google would confirm my words.

 

3. Basing your conclusions and statements over an 'extensive research' conducted over a single, ''huge'' deposit of 80 euro and probably making a couple of hundred of spins is not only ridiculous and totally irrelevant, but it also reveals you have absolutely no idea what you have been investing your money in while gambling online. And that's sad...

 

I will recommend you to refrain from throwing such ludicrous and meaningless accusations against any online casino unless you are having some serious evidence, different than the crappy example you gave us above of course. 

 

You may take this as a constructive criticism. Or you may not... However, I have no intentions to tolerate such bs posts like yours any more. 

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