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Hi, I had signed up at the Winward casino in the early on Nov, 2012. And had request total cash out of $3601 in end of around end of Jan. I was told to provide all the documents as request (example of bill and ID) after I had receive an e-mail from them saying they had receive it,they had told me that their cash out payment method is only Eco Card so after what they had told me I had sign up a Eco card account just for the cash out purpose. After everything was set I had request a payment I was receive an e-mail of payment declined so I had message the live chat as they had told me that I must use what I use for deposit as my withdrawal payment method, after I had deposit a total of $50 again using my Eco card account so I could cash out with the Eco card method. I had received 2 payments from them in total $1000 in total right now since they only allow $500 each month as they say. And now I still have a total of $2651 is still left in my account but I don’t know why when I login to my account it say my account was block , I had talk to the live chat the response is they are still investigate but it been a long time they still haven’t reply my e-mail of anything. It seems they are making some excuse for not paying me. Since when I request a cash out before there is always issue and excuse to decline my pay out. Could you help me out please !

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User name

AskGamblers Complaints Team has been provided with enough information and evidence on behalf Winward Casino management in regards of this complaint to confirm and justify the casino actions.

Based on the above, AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is now officially closed. In case of a disagreement with our decision we remind player that further assistance on this matter could be requested from the relevant regulatory body.

User name

Dear AskGamblers,

This is a fraudulent player.

Account is permanently disabled and there will be no further payouts or deposits by this account.

We do not wish to discuss any fraud prevention evidence or uncollected/fraud deposit on this account in order to avoid other fraudulent players from repeating or learning this behavior.

We kindly request from you to close this issue, and furthermore you may warn other operators about the same pattern of this player.

Sincerely,

Winward Casino

User name loyalty-level-2

Hi in regard of what they response i have to say to say it more clear that the total of $275 is separate in 3 different time of deposit

1st time deposit is $225 by moneybooker

2st time deposit is $25 by eco card

3rd time deposit is $25 by eco card

$225+$25+$25= $275 in total

I do have all the transaction history by moneybooker and Eco card saying all the deposit was went through, so i don't understand why the say that the deposit made by my account is never been seen .

Day One of Cash Out:

The 1st time after i deposit the $225 and made a cash out t,he casino support told me i must withdrawal by Eco card , cause that is the only withdrawal method available . So i end up sign up an Eco card account

Day Two of Cash Out:

After sign up an Eco card account i had resubmit a cash out again, this time the support told me even i have an Eco card account i cant withdrawal since i had not use my Eco card account for deposit at there casino before ,so they were unable to withdrawal my fund by Eco card . I end up making my second deposit in the casino of $25 by Eco card account

Day Three Of Cash Out:

After making the $25 deposit by Eco card on Day 2 cash out, i try to resubmit a cash out , i receive an e-mail of payment declined, this time i contact support again ,i had told them i had done everything they want what is the issue this time, they support told me that minimum of total deposit is $50 since last time when i made a deposit by Eco card i had just deposit$25 in the account , so he told me that i made an other $25 deposit .

* after all those annoying and confuse step i had , i had end up receive $1000 from them by Eco card but i still have $2426 still waiting .

I think this casino is making non stop excuse saying all the above because they don't want to pay my winning ,since i do have all the proof and transaction from Moneybooker and Eco card , i don't understand what they mean by saying they had never receive my deposit of $275 made by this account will never be seen either??

User name

Dear AskGamblers,

Thank you for the notice about this complaint,

We regret to inform that this account is fraudulent, Ecocard as well flagged it as such.

We have already sent $1,000 as a payout to this fraudulent player. Needless to say, that a deposit of $275 made by this account will never be seen either. Thus, the total damage is already at $1,275.

Therefore, the account is permanently disabled, there will be no further payouts or deposits option for this player.

Furthermore, this player will not be able to open any additional account on our entire network.

Sincerely,

Winward Casino

Winward Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 24 / 25
Avg. Amount $1,020
Avg. Complaint Duration 7 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Will not pay my winnings
Can you please help me? I am having trouble getting my winnings from Winward Casino. They seem to be stalling in paying my winnings. They are coming up with one reason after another and it has been going on for over 2.5 weeks and there has been several emails back and forth but we are getting nowhere. The money keeps being put back in my casino account, and when I ask questions they won’t answer me. Details are as follows:
21/6/20 - submitted a request to withdraw my winnings of $2000 AUD.
All my required verification documents had been verified some months before and
The 3 items they list under verification requirements , on my account are all ticked and
Marked as fully verified (Government document showing my address, drivers license
showing photo ID, and front side of credit card ). I have read all their terms and
conditions and they state that it takes 5 days for the accounts department to review
the request.
25/6/20 - checked account to see if it had been processed yet, and left my account or whether
It was still pending but saw that the funds were now back in my account . Contacted
Live chat to enquire why this was so & was simply just told ‘missing card’. After asking
Repeatedly what they meant by that, some half an hour later I was finally told that
The card was not on file , or the account I tried to withdraw money to had never
been used at the casino, but the card that I almost always use to deposit IS the
Card associated with the account that I tried to withdraw into. Anyway the agent
(Vinnie) told me to send the card to the accounts email address. I asked if the
withdrawal would then take place and was told, just send the card. I immediately
emailed the front side of the card to the email address given and then resubmitted
My withdrawal request. I asked in the email if it needed to wait another 5 days, and
said I was hoping it could be done once this was rectified.
25/6/20 - received reply from Pete stating that the card had now been verified and had been
added to my file with other documents, and all was in order, and to make the
withdrawal request again (which I had already done), and was told that it would be
processed on Monday (3 days time). There was no mention of any other required
Documents, and he said all was good to go.
30/6/20 - logged into my account expecting to see the money gone but it was still showing
as withdrawal pending so I replied to Pete’s email asking why, and received
a reply, now from Eric saying that the review would take place in 3 days time.
I replied saying that I was told it would be Monday and his reply was that it
Can take longer due to volume but it would definitely be that week.
1/7/20 - logged in to see what had happening and found the funds now sitting back in
My casino account to use for the 3rd time! I sent 7 seperate emails over the
course of the day and night trying to find out what was going on , with no reply to any of
them so I again contacted live chat and was told this time that the reason was missing
card. After arguing for some time trying to explain that I had just been through that
scenario 5 days earlier, and forwarding him the copy of Eric’s email stating it would be
done Monday, he said ‘oh yes I see that now’ and then said the reason it was back in
my account was because I hadn’t sent in my bank statement and could I do that straight
away then resubmit the request for withdrawal. I started to get a little annoyed and
explained I couldn’t see why this would be needed as there is no information on there
that they don’t already have, And that this is private information and that I wasn’t happy
to do this. Also asked if this meant I had to wait another 5 days again for a third time
and was told that I did. I asked to be put on to the account Manager and was told that
was Kevin but he had gone and now it was him (the person with whom I was on chat
with). I said good, can u please tell me why my account is showing as fully verified and
why a bank statement was necessary, he replied ‘take it up with accounts, I am just a
sole messenger’, and I said I thought u just said u were manager, and he then ended
the chat.
I emailed Eric again with and expressed my
annoyance with what was going on. I asked if they could confirm that they had on file,
my license, credit card, document with address , and now my statement, and if there
were any other documents that I needed to be submit to facilitate my withdrawal
request. I also asked why I was not told about the bank statement when I was told the
First time the funds were returned to my account, that the reason was missing
card, and told that it was good to go ahead with making withdrawal request again. I
also asked if they were stalling.
2/7/20 - When I received Eric’s reply, he simply stated that the bank statement was now on file,
and to go ahead with withdrawal request which would again be reviewed in 5 days
time for the 3rd time. He didn’t answer any of my questions, but he did say that
The additional documents are only required at time of review (even though my request
had supposedly already been reviewed twice by this stage and funds returned to
my account with no mention of any other required documents until I questioned it).
I sent my bank statement and asked for confirmation of receipt, and asked if there
Was now going to be anything else holding up the withdrawal request , and some
Hours later I received a reply stating they had received documents and they’d been
added to my file and to allow 5 days for review to take place (AGAIN), and then , the
Kicker!! His next line .... ‘i can see that you haven't filled out the respective vouchers for
your 2 cards on file. Please print the attached document, fill it out with the information
of each card and send back to us at your earliest convenience’. I sent 4 seperate
emails in reply to this and as yet have had no response whatsoever !!!! It is
3/7/20 today. The ‘vouchers’ that they now want me to fill out and return are some
sort of dodgy authority form to allow them to deposit into my bank account! There
is nothing on that form that they don’t already have and it is clearly nothing more
Than yet another stall tactic . I have not returned the form to them , and have not
received any replies.

Please find attached all relevant correspondence as evidence.
I am really hoping you can help me with this as I am absolutely at my wits end and don’t know what else to do.
Status solved Resolved
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