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Smart Live Casino removed winnings from my account


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By Izya78
12 years ago
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I have a problem with SmartLive casino. I made a deposit and received the welcome bonus. I won around 5000 pounds there on Live Roulette. I was playing there for a few days when my winnings, 4500 pounds in total, suddenly disappeared from my account. I had not even requested a withdrawal.

I contacted Live Chat to ask about what had happened. I had carefully read the Terms before playing and I was absolutely sure some technical issue happened. They seemed to struggle to come up with an explanation at first, asking me to come back in an hour and so on. Then I was told that my winnings had been voided because I had already had an account at HeavenCasino casino and claimed a bonus there. Wow.

I asked to quote the term that prohibited this and they gave me a link to HeavenCasino casino terms which said that it (HeavenCasino) was part of an unnamed network and you can`t claim bonus at HeavenLive if you had claimed it elsewhere. So the smart SmartLive said they voided 4500 winnings using terms from ANOTHER casino as grounds for that. Can`t think of something more absurd, can you? Anyway, our discussion went on and after I explained this point they came up with a different excuse to void winnings. This time, they just quoted a general term about abuse,"In the event of any offer abuse being identified or suspected by the Casino, promotional bonuses will not be granted and management reserves the right to prohibit or exclude certain individuals, groups or regions from the promotions with immediate effect.", without caring to define it. And even the terms quoted said nothing about the right to remove winnings. I have the relevant chat transcripts.

It is shocking that a large UK-based operation treats its customers this way - the fraudulent "we keep your losses, we keep your winnings" attitude. They have no right to remove my winnings as I have not broken any of the Terms and my winnings should be credited back to my account and paid out when a withdrawal is requested.

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User name loyalty-level-2

I will add details according to this complaint shortly. Please, don't close this complaint.

User name

Dear Izya78

As it was mentioned to you previously according to our terms and conditions if you have already claimed a promotion from Heaven Live Casino, you are not eligible to get the promotion from Smart Live Casino. This term has been clearly stated on our website since Heaven Live Casino ( Winnerheaven) started operating under the same software. In your case since you already had accepted a promotion from Heaven Live Casino, you were not qualified to get one from Smart Live Casino. That was the reason why your winnings were void.

We would like to also remind you the following term.

1.5 We may: (1) revise these Terms and Customer Agreement and (2) change the service at any time. Any such revision or change will be effective immediately on its posting on the Website, or by notification to you via email or by post and you agree to check for revisions and changes on each occasion you use the service and/or show.



Once again we sincerely apologise the inconvenience you have encountered and hope you are satisfied with the above explanations as we acted according to our terms and conditions which were clearly stated.

Kind Regards

Smart Live Casino

User name loyalty-level-2

I haven't still received any reply from Smart Live Casino. I understand that my answer could have been looked a little bit offensive but I suppose that this is understandable because of the frustration a person has when a casino takes 5k back under made up excuses. Any person in my situation would feel quite the same.

User name loyalty-level-2

Still haven't got a reply. Please, don't close this complaint.

Smart Live Gaming Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 29 / 72
Avg. Amount $3,727
Avg. Complaint Duration 17 days
Avg. Response Time 4 days

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After 11 Weeks still no pay
On the 24 th of May 2016 I deposited £200 and received a £200 bonus. I played slots varying my bet sizes between £18 and £10. This was well within the stipulated terms for the promotion that I participated in. I went on a winning streak and ended up cashing out £3770 after going well over the wagering requirement. Soon after I was asked to provide documents. They were accepted and I was asked to take a phone call which I did. Everything seemed fine and I was told the withdrawal would be processed. Fast forward a few months and I am yet to receive a penny. I have been emailing and speaking to live chat but they do not help. I received the following email in response on the 27 th of July: ##- Please type your reply above this line -## Dear Rory, Thank you for choosing Smart Live. We are writing in regards of your pending withdrawal. Please be advised that we would like to express our sincere apologies in regards of the delay and the inconvenience in processing your withdrawal. We regret to inform you, however, that we have not yet completed your request and can assure you that your withdrawal is going to be processed as soon as possible. While the best efforts are taken to minimize the time of processing your withdrawal request, on this particular occasion we have failed to deliver on our commitment of processing all withdrawals within our 3-5 day time frame. In this regard, we kindly ask you to consider the possibility of your pending withdrawal transaction taking some more time to be processed. We realize our failure to deliver on the time frame, presented in our conditions, it may not take this much time, however you are kindly requested to bear with us, while we are working on resolving your request. We appreciate your understanding and cooperation trough this regard and we assured that your request is being handled accordingly, Once again we would like to express our sincere apologies for the delay and the inconvenience. Should you require any further assistance in this regard, please do not hesitate to contact us through any of our official channels: Live Chat +44 (0)800 2798 510 [email protected] If you have any other queries or concerns, please feel free to contact us, we will be delighted to help. We are available 24/7 via online chat or email.  Your reference number is 86197. Kind Regards, SLG Customer Service Team  Even since this email they have taken considerably longer than 3-5 working days to do anything. I want to avoid having to take Smart Live Casino to court in the UK if possible. So I’m really hoping we can come to a resolution via your mediation service. It’s been months since my original withdrawal so I felt like I had no options other than to escalate the issue to here. Thanks for your time
Status unsolved Unresolved
£3,770